Hi, Sorry I know there was a similar thread on here recently about paddock stands but id like to know has anybody used the bursig stand on an 848/10/1198? It Looks perfect for working on the bike particularly adjusting the suspension etc. from the u tube clip I cannot see anything permanently attached to the bike but my fear / concern is that the spigots that go into the frame recesses may crush the paint causing it to flake off. Any advise on this would be much appreciated.
Not quite what you are after but I have just used the Bursig stand for the first time on my Panigale. Although the spigots fit into the large casting (holding suspension fulcrum/ footrest brackets etc) on the Pani rather than the frame on the 848, the issue is the same. However, the spigots are a very easy slide fit once you get the angle of the bike lined up with the stand and requires no force to insert whatsoever. The advice is to lightly grease the spigots before use (I used vaseline) which seems to cushion the insertion if that makes sense. There was absolutely no marking of the casting at all apart from rub marks deep inside the recesses where it does no matter anyway. FWIW, I ordered a set of casters with the stand (Bursig call them "rolls") and am very pleased I did as this makes fiting and removing the stand very easy indeed. Also, the angle of the 2 spigots are adjustable (at least on the Pani version) allowing perfect alignment of the spigots for initial fit or alternatively lifting front higher than rear. Usability is excellent but with the Pani you need to remove the left lower faring first (<5 minutes once you are used to it). hope ths helps
Depends on what you want the paddock stand to do really. There are advocates for every version you can name but the Bersig gives you the flexibility to move the bike around in a confined space and some on here have found it excellent at track days. You also have got to be happy with the adaptor permanently fixed to your bike frame - some do and some don't. When I've got the dosh I'll be getting one for my Multi with a second adaptor for the girl friend's Diavel. The other favourite is the Abba stand. Andy
I see you're talking about the bracket also mentioned on the previous thread which would put me off buying one but when I looked at the video of the stand being used on the 848 there was no bracket that I could see, the spigots seemed to go straight into the frame. While there is no doubt that this area of the frame is strong enough in worries that the where the lifting force is applied if there is paint between the spigots and the frame it will be crushed. Even if this area is out if sure I'd be worries about moisture getting under the paint and causing the damage to spread. Mind the abba stand works in much the same way.
Mostly I want the stand for cleaning and working in the bike but I want the capability of unloading the suspension as well as lifting the wheels off the ground.
If you want the ability to unload the suspension your choice is limited and as you have already appreciated a variation on a theme. The stand utilises an adaptor secured in the frame. If you don't need to move the bike around then the Abba is a good choice, if you do the Bersig or one of its clones is the choice. If you look after your bike and you anticipate things like water sitting between the adaptor and the frame much like the R&G crash bungs, I don't think you will have any problems whichever you choose. Andy
I am not 100% sure but believe the adapter plate fitted to the bike is only required for the Multistrada, not for the 848. That's presumably why the MS version is more expensive. It is defintely not required on the Pani. Suggest you review the videos for both 848 and MS and see the difference. I also use an Abba for my SS which I rate highly. Neither cause issues if used properly hope this helps
Thanks very much folks for the advice £300 odd quid is a lot of money I Just want to make the best decision for me and the bike....she's my baby
What Android said. The stand is supplied with a hollow adapter that sits in the large frame hole (I have one and use it on a 1098). The pins are aligned when using the stand for the first time. After that all you do is slide it into position and haul on the lever, once the bike is up a locking pin clicks in on the stand and this has to pushed in when lowering the bike. On mine the bike does rock a little on the stand, its not free play just the dynamics of all that weight. That said its perfectly secure and I've used it for doing the fork oil which requires the legs to be removed. The Bursig will do most things you'll need maintenance wise but you can't remove the swinging arm with it. For that you need the Abba and the footrest adaptors. Oh if you have rear sets (I have the DP adjustable) you need to disconnect the rod as the gear lever fouls the stand. That's not an issue for me as I only use it for Winter storage and maintenance. The castors are very useful for locating the stand into position and moving the bike around. As I remember there is a lock on 2 of them to hold the bike in a fixed position if your floor was slightly sloped for example. I think the video makes it look easier than it is, I can't haul mine on one handed nor will the bike roll around on the touch of a finger and I wouldn't want to sit on the bike when its on the stand either. All that said its a great bit of kit, but bloody pricey John