I'm looking for a bit of advice from you guys on buying my first MTS. I've been thinking about get a new 1200S touring, but at nearly £17K I'm struggling to commit. I've heard rumours of people getting hold of a base with panniers for £12K, and I've also seen a few late (new) '14 MY 1200S tourings going for about £14k. So, do I: > try to get base with panniers for 12k > go for '14MY 1200s at discount > stop being a tight-arse and go for the DVT 1200S touring, then live rest of life on beans on toast? I do a fair number of long weekend trips, and plan on taking my lad on a few trips now. I haven't tried a base and guess the suspension will be great, but I know about as much on how to adjust the settings (for pillion) as I know the appropriate response to give when her indoors prances in front of the mirror and asks "does my arse look big in this?" I'm sure I'd be chuffed with any of them but I don't know what to do for the best. I'm tempted by the '14 MY, but I think they'll have been registered already, so the warranty will be ticking away, and no current chance of extending it. I know it won't be as smooth, but fancy the idea of unleashing CJS on it. What do you reckon?
With your budget id definitely get an S old model over a standard dvt, brand new dvt s is too much imo, electronic suspension will be worth It for the weekend trips with your lad. Got the old ohlin model myself and couldnt be more pleased with it, still doesnt look old even next to the dvt. If i remember correctly i think ive heard someone say that the twin spark models dont react aswell to the cjs tune as the single spark did so thats something to think about before dropping £500ish on a remap But if you really want the new dvt s id personally wait untill next years model and hope theyve sorted some of the teething problems Hope this is of some help
new dvt 1200 s touring is only £15500 ? winter deals are out there even cheaper buy one online from germany then ride it home and it will be run in the money you save still cheaper even with what you pay on the uk registration once you get it here
Ive already owned the S-dvt and sold it to release funds to buy something exotic, I then put a deposit on a pikes peak and after seeing the finished product i decided £19k nah so I'm looking at creating my own pp, and after riding the stock dvt I really liked the suspension and for £99 you can have a pro set it up, also the rear shock has a manual pre-load adjuster, I never take a pillion but for a couple weeks a year when I put the luggage boxes on, I can just wind some pre-load. SORTED After owning all the latest and greatest from several manufacturers (s1000xr) at some stage it will go wrong and out of warranty will be costly and even having problems whilst in warranty can inconvenience you, so I'm going back to basics No led lights, the corner lights are pointless anyway, I'll opt for the led spots instead, skyhook has it limitations with positive and negative comments and on my s-dvt I left it one setting and never touched it, the non s has last years multi brakes tbh nowt wrong with them at all. I also had the full termi it sounded nice but it just magnified the 4K flat spot and because it has the upmap they cannot flash the latest software that they can do on the stock exhaust to remedy this issue. Cruise comes as standard on dvt models and it's great when you got to do 700 miles splash n dash, for me the non s is a no brainer . No bother with a 14 model unless it's brand new and cheap .
Argh! 3 responses and 3 different recommendations. @D4VE - Really interested to hear you're moving from S to base. Looks like there are definitely more people buying the base DVT than previous years - possibly due to ever increasing prices Ducati are asking. I like what @tobers has done with his base. Could be worth a look, if I can push for a decent price. I reckon I could get a new '14 MY S touring for around £13..5K. Would you say that's a good price? The warranty does worry me though. I reckon I'd lose 6 months. @paulfastbikes - I thought it was £16.8K for S touring. Coventry weren't up for negotiating in October, have you found better deals? Love the idea of Germany but I just couldn't get the time off to do it.
One question on the base suspension - is there much dive under braking? If there is, would a decent setup according to my weight sort it out? This is the main reason I've been looking at the S over the base.
Pfft I have a 2014 S Gt, I love it but I wished it had come with standard suspension, it took me ages to get mine right and a lot of back pain in the mean time, but other than that I can fault the riding experience from it. I've been all over Europe twice with the wife on the back with weeks worth of luggage, a total of 5 weeks, most of the warranty work happens in the first few months anyway so I wouldn't be to concern about that, I've been told that even if it's out of warenty as long as it has the dealers service they will do what they can to solve any problems. and as for power and remaps, I was going to get mine done after fitting a full Mivv system but to be honest If I'm "on it" the front is hard to keep down even without a remap. There's more than enough power unless your wanting to take on the new R1 at a track day or something. I'd say look for a 2014 model save some money and use that to hone it into your dream bike.
I'm starting to wonder what I'd be letting myself in for, because Ducati dealers seem to be a breed unto themselves. Just called Wolverhampton to see what offers they could do and I mentioned I'd have my Tuono to part-ex. "We don't part-ex Aprilias" "Oh? Ok..." "Bye then" ... and he puts the phone down!?! I'm starting to think the salesmen love them so much they want to keep them in the showroom! I guess the upside is it's made me think about selling privately, but how odd? You'd think he'd want to keep the discussion going, to at least talk to me about their bikes and what we could do, but nope.
Yep that sounds like a Ducati dealer, most I have dealt with have been so far up there own arses you have to bend over to speak to them.
When I calked wolvs the women whom answered the phone was fooking clueless and she said there's no deals for a cash purchase. So called JHP and the vibe from the sales bod felt as tho he was doing me a favour selling me one, NO CASH incentive to buy, I brought my S from Ducati Manchester with an healthy discount but I'd not buy from them, the experience was not good to say the least [emoji35] There your best mate whilst your buying even when I said to one I can buy cheaper elsewhere so thank you for your time, they still call me to see if I'm interested in buying a bike from them !
I know what you mean about the JHP sales bod. The service guys are superb but he doesn't seem overly bothered to sell you anything. I think you'd get a warmer welcome from Dracula. Sounds like I need to start phoning round.
you can't have it all unfortunately. decent discount usually means shite service so you pays your money and makes your choice.
Cjs had the biggest impact on the single spark model. Twin spark was less of an Impact and I'm not sure there is DVT data out there. Thats from a 45k miles on two mts1200....rider and a 38 month contributor to this forum....other opinions may exist. @Chris don't dramaqueen this...you don't even rider a MTS1200.
I Fully understand dealerships not offering a deal based on somebody saying it's a 'cash purchase', it makes no difference to them as it's not like they will benefit either way. If they do the deal on finance it's more likely they'll get a small kickback, even if they don't get the kickback they get paid straight away anyway.
If you can sell enough bikes without offering discounts, then why would you do it? Its not good business sense in any way. JHP is not the cheapest but if you buy a bike from them, the service afterwards and if you need them to sort a problem, is exceptional i have found.
Some dealers make the money on servicing so will discount because if they sell volume they generate a larger dealer bonus, obviously we all no where JHP makes there profit, I've had several bikes and whilst the service is exceptional it comes at a premium, shame really when I took my hyper back because the paint had peeled off the engine all they offered was a rattle can paint job .
actually had the same thing salesmen was treating me like i was somesort of lower class scum bag as i was was asking for deals and bits ..in the end i had the good fortune to come in on his day off and the manager/owner did me a mega deal on my 2014 mts touring s (thier ex demonstrator) in moto ducati s touring brand new £15,795
Personally I would go for the 2014 S and then dress it up with Leo Vince decat and Tuneboy fuel, CC, QS ( up and down ) and soon to be LC.
So is the question? To DVT or Not DVT,...That is the question Whether 'tis Nobler in the mind to suffer The Slings and Arrows of outrageous Fortune, Or to take Arms against a Sea of troubles, And by opposing end them: to die, to sleep No more; and by a sleep, to say we end The Heart-ache, and the thousand Natural shocks That Flesh is heir to? 'Tis a consummation Devoutly to be wished. To die, to sleep, etc
