I've started getting the shuddering from front disc brakes recently, I have taken the bike into the local dealer who agrees the shuddering is there and has advised me to come back in a few days time so that he can measure up the disc’s so that he can put a warranty claim in, but advises that the last time he tried to apply for this it got knocked back by Ducati stating it is under normal wear and tear and not to expect to much. I'm just wondering how many people have been knocked back on their warped disc warranty claims
On my 2010 Multi which I owned for 5 years, I went thru 3 sets of front discs due warped in less than 20,000 miles. 2 MOT failures on them 2 years running. I am light on the brakes too. Ducati replaced 2 sets free of charge, but the 3rd time they refused saying wear and tear. Ended up with non OEM discs which were very slightly thicker on recommendation of my dealer, and that seemed to sort it. Not Impressed by the quality of the OEM discs. Only done 3500 miles on my DVT, but I am acutely aware of my previous experiences with the discs, and to be honest am half expecting the same..... But hoping not !! Sorry to hear about yrs. Suspect it the same issue as my previous. Good luck.
I can understand their stance of refusal. It's a wear and tear item and warping is often caused by the rider/driver sitting with the brakes on when the discs are hot. However if, and it may well be the case that this is a common issue, I'd say it's likely the discs are shit and could do with a higher carbon make up.
If that is the case Advikaz why hasn't that happened on other makes of bike. And from what I have read, it doesn't happen on some other models of Ducati even.
After owning 25 bikes I have only replaced one disc and that's when the bike fell over and the disc hit a wheel chock. Did have a monster that had a little vibration from discs. Bike well out of warranty and my mechanic said it met Ducati specs. I cleaned both discs with contact cleaner and scotchbrite pad. Better. Then loosened discs from retainers and rotated 90 degrees opposite one another to change frequency. Problem solved.
If you read the bottom I explain why mate.. It's very common on cars, not as common on bikes because the area is better ventilated and the brakes aren't under the same loads as a car (weight etc). Like I say it's likely down to a poor carbon content of the disc or something up with the bell of the disc. However from a warranty perspective they may put it down to rider error. And as we know braking components are consumable, therefor warranty is always hit and miss. Persevere with the complaint and you'll likely get the result you're looking for. Usually the case with most manufacturers. Just for reference but no Cock measuring I was previously for many years a technical consultant in the automotive field, for some time specialising in technical seminars and warranty inspection of high end claims, both two and four wheeled for some of the biggest parts manufacturers and brands around. If you need any assistance pm me and I'll happily advise you. But honestly escalate the issue outside of the dealer if you are unhappy.
Thanks for that offer, if it gets refused (as has been implied) I wouldn't mind taking you up on it. The issue does annoy me somewhat, I have had many different bikes over the years, most of these the brakes have not been anywhere near as powerful as the ones on the DVT and therefore got used a lot harder and yet still didn't warp. This is my first experience with this problem on what I would have assumed would have been the least likely bike to occur on
If they warp under normal use before reaching there 'service limit' they are not fit for purpose - no way can they get away with it with a bike still under warranty. If it's out of warranty on a replacement set that warps again then perhaps, but still you will have a case dependant on age of the replacement parts. It is clearly a known issue so plenty of evidence around. I think that some have had 2 or 3 replacements and some refused is purely due to the determination of the individual and the helpfulness/ determination of the dealer.
It's certainly more unusual on bikes than cars. Usually bikes have good quality discs for obvious reasons. Give me a shout if you need anything mate, but as I say do escalate the situation and gather your research on other people's experiences to bolster your argument. The dealer will probably be useless, so take it to Ducati customer services.
This sort of thing does hack me off, all my racing in the eighties was on production bikes, straight from the showroom on to the track and then for the next year raced week in week out, I don't remember replacing discs ever. You would think if there was one single area of a bike that you just wouldn't skimp on quality it would be the front brake.
People go on and on about only using Ducati parts but do not realise the corporate structures that help ensure they are not the best quality and engineered option at times for service items :Angelic:
just had mine replaced under warranty at 6k miles , dealer took the bike for a ride and agreed they were fucked the disks are so thin it doesn't surprise me either that they are warping easy , add to that shit material and hey ho Especially as you use so much engine breaking as well on these bikes. They do get fucking hot quick though , been checking mine on short rides and they get really hot , did wonder if the callipers were sticking , but they aren't. The dealer also told me I was the first person to have warped disks on a DVT ????:tearsofjoy::tearsofjoy::tearsofjoy:........classic I certainly wouldn't except it as wear and tear , they aren't fit for function...
Just over 12 months and around 9000 miles, no pad change yet but have a set of EBC HH ready to go in, just waiting to see what happens with these disc's first
But thin doesn't necessarily mean bad, especially for floating rings. You can be sure Ducati takes the brakes on this flagship very seriously. If the failure rate is 7 to 10 percent then they have to sort it out but it's not a huge "faulty bike" thing. So far most people are getting warrantied and satisfied. Most people. There's definitely some disasters. As for the groaning noise when rolling the bike about, this is the exact same noise I've heard in Indy and F1 pits as cars are pushed about. Tolerances in these caliper/pads are close and they use a sort of pin-less design, or short blind pin, which itself could be the main cause. These brakes are as good as the they come in prod. bikes
Ive got m50's on the ktm 1-finger pulls up pretty quick and the discs are galfer as stock, there not rusty after washing the bike and there not warped ! The discs on the multi are Brembo and a premium brand but why are they like cheese !
I guess because it's a reasonably high number of people on the forum that have had issues with it that questions the quality of the component therefore I don't think that it's unreasonable to assume there's something not right how thick are people's disks out of interest ? Will measure mine as they are new. Incidentally I don't really rate the quality of galfer disks either
