A Monday dilemma BBC News - Teacher Jamshed Javeed admits Syria terror offences So apart from admittng he was going to pay for some tickets and go join ISIS (some time ago before the recent escalation of violence) what has he done wrong? From whats reported, he wasn't planning attacks nor funding them in the UK or anywhere Simply following his own beliefs that the UK and USA plus Eu charge is against his religeon as a whole, and killing 'his peolpe' and wanted to do something to support them So is this a crime or a step too far to liberty restrictions of right to person views, beliefs?
It wasn't simply a matter of a right to a personal view, he was actively engaged in a process that would have taken him to Syria to commit an offence if he had not been arrested. No dilemma; Perfectly acceptable.
What offence in the UK? If a Dr were to do the same, and go out but to still join a similar group, but be proven it was to work in local hospitals is that different even with same sympathies?
Not only are substantive offences of violence and dishonesty crimes; so also are secondary activities such as aiding, abetting, inciting, conspiring, financing, and preparing. When a substantive offence has been committed it is hard enough to find out who did it, catch the perpetrator, and prove their guilt beyond reasonable doubt. It is much more difficult still in the case of secondary offences. In this case, the defendant apparently pleaded guilty. It is not his thoughts he is prosecuted for, or even his intentions, but rather his actions. I don't see anything wrong in principle with that.
I've not read the article, but in simple terms, membership of a proscribed organisation, in this case ISIS/IS, is an offence. Also, commiting an act of terror abroad which would be an offence in the UK is also an offence. It's all covered in the Terrorism Act 2000.
I reckon it is pointless confiscating passports from those that wish to travel to join IS-whatever..... ....Let the buggers go and don't let them come back..........if they can avoid being killed. Do we really want them stuck in the UK fomenting homegrown trouble? I also think that anyone who attempts to radicalise others, should be 'exported' at the very first attempt and bollocks to Human Rights.
By admitting to go join ISIS, my interpretation is this:- He despises the UK, its inhabitants (that's you and me) and all the UK stands for. He wants a world wide sharia state. He would have loved watching those poor fuckers getting their heads hacked off recently. I say let him go there. Hopefully he'll get vapourised quickly. No court case, no appeals, no costs. Perfect!!
