Intelligent Design

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by Pete1950, Aug 2, 2013.

  1. Presupposes that any ID supporter only thinks of the world as good and wholesome. Nice half empty view :upyeah:

    And goes no way to explaining how things evolve from think air...
     
  2. This video only deals with one particular point. True, there are millions of other issues it does not address - so what? Is that supposed to be an adverse criticism?
     
  3. Is the video supposed to be adverse criticism?
     
  4. Religionists often ascribe all things bright and beautiful, and any good fortune for them, to the agency of god. Well, if god is responsible for everything, it necessarily follows that he is responsible for all the bad stuff as well. It's a simple point, but rather nicely portrayed I thought.
     
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  5. Wot ...no mention of a 90 deg, aircooled, 2-valve desmo motor, with integral rear monoshock and a trellis frame.
    Surely a grave omission in any discussion about intelligent design.

    But here's a thing ....if it all began out of a big bang somewhere in the timeless, spaceless continuum .......why hasn't there been another one ?

    Personally, I have no theories about creation.
    I accept that I just don't understand.
    But I do marvel, and it feels kinda religious, though I know it isn't really.......I think.
     
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  6. Do god-brigade say much different? Or are diseases, disasters and general high attrition events a higher entities way of keeping population at a level sustainable?
     
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  8. Any criticism of religion is adverse isn't it. They don't like it up em!
     
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  9. Check out Penrose's CCC for a theory that attempts to address that

    Penrose Lecture

    Conformal cyclic cosmology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




    And that is an eminently scientific standpoint that is to be commended sir!
     
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  10. They seem to say not merely that god exists but that god is good. If killing millions of people by diseases and disasters as a form of population control is said to be "good", that opens up an interesting discussion on what good means.
     
  11. Is that the greater good...like sending millions to their death in the second world war, fighting so other countries can experience freedom in Europe as we were in Britain?
     
  12. This is a circular agrument bradders. By definition a population cannot be sustainable if it requires culling can it.
     
  13. Its all made up anyway. Religion or science. Most is theory yet to be proven...so someone sees a speck of light which is so far away it was sent at the time of the big bang; who knows if its true or not?! Science is religion by another name
     
  14. it is sustainable and therefore needs culling before it becomes unsustainable
     
  15. 'Science has questions which may never be answered; religion has answers which may never be questioned.'

    Every scientific hypothesis is open to challenge, question, testing, reasoning, observation, or experiment. Religious hypotheses are eternal truths, beyond argument, immune from challenge, and without evidence. They seem pretty different concepts to me.
     
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  16. all theories are yet to be proven, that's why they are theories and not proof...

    I'm firmly lodged in the science camp, if it can be proved or you can give me a reasonable explanation grounded in fact then I'm happy. However if someone finds solace in the belief of a higher power then who am I to deny them that.
     
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  17. Try challenging the science behind global warming and see where that gets you in the scientific community, even when the holes are often glaring
     
  18. Couldn't have read their Old Testament then could they ?
     
  19. Which is why I said most is theory...the other have been proved :rolleyes:
     
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