As above - am I seeing this the wrong way....tell me if im talking shite.... Now im not the best rider in the world....I don't go out for a "ride" a great deal, kids, wife, house, full time job all get in the way....I reckon id go out in the year about 6 times maybe less for a deliberate "ride" Ive only ever got my knee down a handful of times in my life as I really don't go out that much, believe me id love to go out more but never get the time, which begs the above question... Lets say ive got a new bike, im gradually getting experience on it but id like to see how far over it goes. Now, and unskilled rider would (take a ficticious case) go out, push it as hard as he can, maybe go over the edge of the rear tyre and maybe loose it maybe not. A skilled rider would probably be able to feel when they hit the edge of the tyre, not saying im skilled but im sure ive felt it a few times but other times Im sure I haven't been over that far so maybe something on the road that's caused the rear to go a little. If I had something, a viewer that when stood still I could lean my bike over and see from the lean angle viewer (small lcd maybe) what the optimum angle is for my bike with the tyres ive got fitted (Whatever they are). IE the point on the tyre when that bike on those tyres still has a full contact patch, so, when youre riding and going over you know where to stop leaning thus greatly reducing your chances of crashing/loosing it... I understand that this would be based on a flat road an obviously there are roads that lean and have a camber but surely its a good basic aid.... 1. Is that a good idea? 2. Am I talking shite? 3. Does this already exist? Im guessing if it doesn't it would be an easy thing to make/retro fit to a bike.... Discuss.
If you are 'worried' about lean angle when road riding, make sure your medical insurance is up to date........
throw in a 'randomiser' for the state of the road surface at any given point, and i would imagine the margin for error, to be quite sizeable. Anyway, if your leaning it on a road, shouldn't you be looking through the corner, not at a lean angle indicator? ( i may have missed something here) Nice lateral thinking though, always praise efforts to be creative and different thinking- keep going, you'll be on Dragons den yet ( they always need floor sweepers - :biggrin
A course such as the i2i Motorcycle Academy : About Us 'knee down' course would teach you all you need know. There's a lot I could advise but I'd be opening myself up to all kinds of litigation following any accident based on my advice. Best seek expert advice in a controlled environment.
Stop stop stop.....im not saying ive got a problem. Im just saying that for someone who wants to practice then if they know a flat road (or near as dammit) with corners they know when cornering when they've got a good footprint.... I was just thinking about it and thought "heh - thatd be pretty good for someone who wants to practice but hasn't gained the insight into knowing when they've hit the edge"
It would be fun if it monitored the max angle of a given ride (you would struggle to view it real time on the road I think). People could try and beat their own record and all end up falling off, but sounds fun to me :biggrin:
Why not just fit a go pro to the front/rear at a given angle to allow you to watch when you get home. I think you would not have much chance to look at a screen whilst cornering or you might get away with it once afore you head into the kerb ie not looking where you want to go! only my opion
yup - that's an option but 2 go pro's at at least a couple a hundred a pop plus you need to be seeing it real time which you cant do....
Also, yes, perfect....but how often do you go on a trackday? (ive never been on one) not cos I don't want to...id love to but cant afford it as per my original post. For the first time in 20+ years of riding ive got a set of sticky tyres on my bike (supercorsa's) - and I know ill need another set before the TT this year.
The im kinda thinking of a basic type viewer (kind like the lean angle on the Moto GP on screen) maybe you could program a max lean angle with a flashing LED that progressively flashes faster as you go over....just a thought.... Im more of just a brainstorming type thing to see what people thought....dunno. My older brother is an electronics engineer....that's his area (sensors - that kind of thing)
Found one for free - with a sensor pre-set to warn of too much lean!!! Angle Meter Touch Review Angle Meter Touch isn’t the first time we have seen an app that turns your Nokia’s accelerometer into a spirit level of sorts but it could well be the ultimate as it packs in a nice display and a great level of sensitivity. So, does it truly measure up? Find out with our Angle Meter Touch review… When Nokia started putting motion sensors in its mobiles a few years back, the original intention was to enable nifty tricks like noting the camera’s orientation to check if a picture needed to be rotated or not. Coders quickly picked up on this untapped resource and began writing apps that pushed the motion sensor further – novelty apps like the one that showed a virtual glass of beer that ‘emptied’ as it was tilted, simple tilt-sensitive games and eventually some more practical apps that tried to use the sensor as a measuring device such as a pedometer or a spirit level. Where most spirit level apps do their best to ape a real level, complete with a graphical ‘bubble’, Angle Meter Touch tries to show a little more detail. Instead of a simple moving blob you get a semicircle divided by degrees and a precise, thin line that moves with your phone to show the (pretty much) exact angle. We have been critical of Offscreen Technologies in the past – too many of their Touch apps seem only half thought out or lacking in som ecrucial feature, but Angle Meter Touch really feels right. The indicator needle moves exactly as you would expect and the single control button in the centre of the screen instantly recalibrates the device to set the current angle as zero – ideal if you want to measure slight fluctuations from the current angle. We are sure there are features that could be added – an alert that sounds when you tilt more than a predefined angle for example – but this would fly in the face of Offscreen’s ‘keep it simple’ aesthetic. As it is, this just works and works well. Exactly how useful you might find this app for doing actual DIY will depend largely on your willingness to put £300 worth of phone near a toolbox full of objects that could seriously damage it. Although yet to use it in anger ourselves, we are pretty confident that Angle Meter Touch will perform as advertised. Details Price: Free Size: 0.38 MB DOWNLOAD: Angle Meter Touch
stick a piece of 2x4 out to however many inches will give you 55 degrees when it snaps your there:biggrin:
I was just about to suggest adjustable stabilisers............or a steel plate on the bottom of the boots....
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I took my 2006 R6 in to a dealer for an intermittent starting problem. When they plugged in the diagnostics, they told me it registered that I had been leaning it too far over. Would be interesting if this could be displayed on the dash!...
Only it wouldn't work on a bike, the accelerometer would measure the local acceleration vector and not the angle of lean whilst cornering. To measure the lean angle of a bike whilst cornering, as opposed to standing still, you would need a gyroscopically stabilised device.
