Has anyone bought these new tyres yet,they seem to be a replacement for the power pures,which I currently have fitted and do not have the best relationship with!luckily they will only see about another 1000 miles then I can ditch them.i was looking at going back to PR2s,yes you read that right,I prefer them when the going get hot than PR3s,give a better feedback when on the limit.also prefer the less aggressive profile over the Pures,which when warmed up do stick well.So can anyone tell me if these new tyres are similar in feel to the Pures,in which case I will give them a miss.
Not a replacement for Pures. Replacement/update of PR2s. I prefer PR2s too, but like BT023s better. Currently have PR3s on my Multi and BT023s on my Fazer thou. Will go for SportSmarts next on the Multi (for dry use).
I have 2 bikes, one with bt-023's and the other I decided to try pr2's. Must say I prefere the feedback from the Bridgestones over the Michelins any day.
Bridgestones for me always feel safe and predictable, had them on Fireblade, 1200 Bandit, Ducati Monster, Gpz500, Vfr etc. I thought I'd try Michelin pilot road 2's on my Fazer 600 as I heard they were good, and around 20quid cheaper than the 023's. I wish I hadn't as although the tyres are most certainly grippy, it feels noticeable vague in corners at normal speed, ie, commuting speed. I've given them some beans in faster corners and they seem ok??? So grip levels are high, and the fingernail in the tire test shows they are even softer than the 023's hot or cold. The pr2's now have about 1000miles use. Wear is non existent so far which is good, but just the level of confidence you get from feedback, I can ride my monster 600 much harder in corners than the Fazer. Ive no doubt the pr2's are great but for me personally i wont be buying them again.
I've got them on my CBR600fa and I like them I agree the do seem to feel "softer" but they have more flex in the sidewalls than Bridgestones and I think they sort of squidge down in the bends and I quite like that. I've yet to try them in the wet so the jury is still out on their suitability for Scotland
+ 1 on the PR2s. I had an admittedly short ride on an identical gsxr 1000 to mine, with the 3s on. I thought the front felt very vague. PR2s are great wet or dry, with excellent and even wear. Bonus of now being cheaper than the latest 'hyped up' tyres.
Looks like a toss up between the 023s or pr2s then,I do need a bit of decent wet grip from time to time.
I can vouch for the 023's in appauling torrential rain and hail. I got caught out a yr ago on a new sv650 and the country road was a river, lol, but phenomenal grip.
Well as long as the tip into a corner is not as severe as the pures then I reckon time to give 023s a go,BTW I found that after a particularly mad 500 miles of driving abroad the pr3s actually gave up and were no longer interested in playing the game,they were maybe 2/3 rds worn in tread terms,but they had totally Gone Off.
Michelin Pilot Power 3 I know there's already a thread titled about these tyres, but it didn't really answer what I was looking to know. So I started another one anyway... sorry about that. Has anyone tried out the new Michelin Pilot Power 3 yet? Any good? What like are they compared to Pilot Power 2CTs? My first rear Supercorsa is looking like it will only last another 1000 miles or so, so I figured I'd look at the options for replacing them both with a new pair altogether as I'm not really getting on with the Supercorsas so far. I'll give them until the rear is done to prove me wrong, but I think I'll be looking to swap them for something a wee bit more road-biased. I've shortlisted a couple of options, listed in my order of preference based on my experience of previous tyre models:- 1. Pilot Power 3 (loved the 2CTs I had before) 2. Diablo Rosso Corsa (thinking this may be a gamble if they are similar to the Supercorsas, but I used to be Mr. Pirelli) 3. Dunlop Sportsmart (an outsider as I've never used Dunlops since I had them years ago and hated them) Really fancy junking the Pirellis and getting the Power 3s but would like to know how folk have found the Michelins compared to the other two options. Prices are close enough to not be a factor in the decision, and as long as the mileage isn't drastically different to each other, that's not a worry either. I just want ones that work on the road and that can handle two or three half days on track a year. Any info at all would be a great help. Cheers. Andy
You should also consider tyre profile and how it will affect your riding style. I used to be a Bridgestone man through and through and then got on to Pirelli. Of the 3 I think the Dunlop is the odd one out because its shape is more pointy so when you crank the bike over you feel as though you are dropping off a plateau. A lot of riders feel fine with this but if your life experience is of a more progressive transition as you lean over it can scare the sh*t out of you. You might also consider the MCN favourite of last year which was German made but you'll need to read the mag because I've forgotten the make. Treat yourself to the Pirelli BSB if there are any around, fantastic tyre for grip and feel but soft as butter and will only last 1000 miles but they will be exciting miles :biggrin:. Andy
Cheers for the reply. It's the profile that's my main concern as it happens. I used to like the quick tipping tyres, but after getting used to the 2CTs on my last bike, I am looking for the more progressive profile now. I think this is one of the things I am not getting on with where the Supercorsas are concerned. It is probably worth getting a BSB rear (got a price for one today as it happens) and then changing the pair later in the summer. I've got two track sessions booked so the BSB would be on for those most likely then replaced afterwards. I didn't realise the Dunlops were a sharp profile, I know the older or more racy ones are though as I remember them being known for triangular front tyre profiles, but I thought the SportSmarts were more rounded. I'll see how the remainder of the Supercorsa goes before deciding for sure. I think at this point in time I'd like to try the Michelins but will see how I get on. Cheers. Andy
I too have been a fan of the original 2CT I just tried the Pilot Power 3, Dunlop GP 211 Enduro, Pirelli Supercorsa SC2/SC1 and Michelin Power One CUP VB front/C compound rear on track. The P3 is the only true road tyre i used, the others are all road legal track/race tyres i was doing very similar times round Almeria on the P3s as i was on Dunlop GP 211 Cuts At Jerez i did find that when pushing really hard the Power 3's moved around quite a bit which was a bit disconcerting (but it is a road oriented tyre so thats not a huge surprise and i was driving it as hard as i dared) so i changed them for pirelli SC1/2 before i hurt myself the pirelli supercorsa (BSB or SC1 or SC2 compounds ) are great tyres but are very very soft and overkill for the road. Their wet performance is not great as they have very little water displacement abilities (they are a track/race tyre imho) if you ever do any big motorway/commuting miles they will square off. same goes for the GP 211 and power one i'd be lucky to get a 1.5 days out of a rear pirelli sc on track, whereas the Power 3 even after 3-4 days of serious abuse look like they have many thousands of fast road miles left in them. they are going on my road bike v soon I think the Piiot Power 3 is an excellent fast road tyre in the dry, cannot attest to wet performance yet but if its as good as the old 2ct that will do me fine (they say its better). As a trackday tyres it is also very very capable and would suit anyone in novice/inters or in the bottom half of the fast group very well. i think if you are one of the faster riders in fast group, you will probably want softer, stickier rubber personally as a track tyre i really liked the power one Cup, esp the V profile front. it is great on the 998 (which can be a bit slow to turn in) at a track like Jerez where getting the bike burying the front into corners to carry as much corner speed as you can is the order of the day have heard lots of good things about the dunlop GP212 pro hard compound tyres. very sticky and very durable, but not tried these yet in summary, if you are a predominately a road rider who also does the odd trackday and liked the 2ct, the power 3 looks like a great choice to me
Hey, that's a great post. Thanks for taking the time to write that out, it's really helped me. What you've said answers my uncertainties completely. I've always had sporty road tyres that could hack a trackday and find the Supercorsas a step too far to the track biased side. I'm not looking for a road legal track tyre at all, I am after a soft road tyre that can do some time on track without ruining it. I've only done 1025 miles on the 848 but the rear is already squaring off, and most of that mileage has been in the wet or cold while running the bike in. What you've described above is exactly me - mid level Intermediate on track, but I'll only do maybe 2 or 3 half days at Knockhill a year. The rest of my riding is on the road, and albeit fairly spirited, I want something that works all the time and warms up quickly. I found the 2CTs slow to turn after the Diablo Corsa IIIs that I had on the GSXR, but after I got used to that I found them so confidence inspiring and they handled a track day or two each summer without a flinch. I'd trade the quick turn-in for confidence any day. There's no way I'll be riding to the limits of a tyre like the 2CTs so by the sound of it I should get on well with the Power 3s even on trackdays. I got a price for a pair from my tyre guy today too and they will work out about £70 more than the cost of just the rear BSB tyre. I think this makes it a no-brainer now then, £70 to sort my confidence out is a cheap upgrade. Once my Supercorsa rear is done, I'll stick a pair of the Power 3s on. When I do I'll pop back with my findings. I did look into the new Power Supersport, but the Power 3s sound just the ticket. :smile: Thanks.
The MCN tyre of the year was the Metzeller Z8 Metzeler Roadtec Z8 Interact wins MCN Tyre of the Year award! | Ridexperience UK. I am now past 8k miles in 2 years on a pair on my 748 and the front is just starting to misbehave a little in the wet. I have tried BTs, Dunlops, and Diablo Rossos on this bike and none of them have matched the Z8s for consistent performance in the dry, in the wet they are in a different class and the mileage they have completed so far is twice that achieved by any of the others. I am tempted by the 2CTs but will they be any better?
Just put on a set of the Power 3's to my Multi but have only ridden the 40 miles home from the fitter so can't really comment on the tyre yet (paid £266 fully fitted). Loved the 2CT's and had a couple of sets of Pure's on my Gixxer 1000 so couldn't wait to give these a go. Not expecting the rear to last long but it can't be much worse than the Scorpions at 2900 miles!
In terms of mileage? no-way jose, I get about 4/4.5K out of a rear and about 6/6.5K out of a front, in ratio terms 3:2 before I can consider something else cost effectively. On the road tho I find them hard to fault, too good probably, not much else to say about them Andy, good tyre, but I wouldn't take the piss in the wet. Seriously considering Conti Road Attacks next time just because ... or P3's??
