Hi , I'm new to all things Ducati and I have been having worrying dreams recently involving me and a Sport Classic...I know what this means, I won't sleep properly until I have one...:biggrin: My preferred steed would be a Biposto classic in that gorgeous yellow, 2nd choice red, third choice black ( I would add so go-faster stripes to that I'd think) However I have some basic questions that I hope you can help me with. 1) Can a Monoposto be turned into a Biposto easily? It has to be pillion capable for my needs. 2) I read some talk of tanks expanding and going phut...is this a big problem? 3) Any pointers of what basic problems they suffer from would be really appreciated. :wink:
1. All you need is a big hammer and a saw :smile: 2. Nah. Piss in the tank now and again and it'll be fine.:smile: 3. Its a Ducati. Bits rattle off now and again :smile:
1) Can't comment, I ride a GT1000 - but this is an excellent bike for pillion duties. 2) This is reported to be linked to petrol with a higher ethanol content & appears to be more of an issue in North America (at the moment). My GT1000 is 6 years old & the tank is ok. 3) Opinions differ. Some people on various forums will tell you the suspension is poor. I switched to Hyperpro progressive fork springs simply to cope better with our local bumpy roads. I still have the original rear shocks on the bike, they work fine - especially with a pillion. I also swapped the OEM spoked wheels for 5-spoke Marchesinis for a number of reasons. The Marchesinis are lighter & also enable me to use tubeless tyres. In addition to the practicality of being able to use a plug/repair kit in the event of a puncture, the lighter wheels reduce unsprung weight & this does enable the bike to turn a little faster. The spokes on the OEM wheels do have a tendancy to corrode & take more effort when cleaning. If you want to retain the spoked wheel look & yet still run tubeless tyres, there are manufacturers who make spoked wheels that run tubeless tyres - but they aren't cheap! The DS1000 motor is a nice torquey unit. I mainly ride on country roads so I swapped the 15-tooth front sprocket for a 14-t sprocket. This has made the bike a little livlier in the lower gears & I can also ride in 6th on dual carriageways without being too far over the speed limit. Like all air-cooled Ducatis, the engines can lose paint from the front of the sump/starter motor area. This is only cosmetic & may not have such an effect on a bike that hasn't been used through winter. Some owners in warmer climes have reported issues with the regulator, but I haven't heard of this affecting too many of us in the UK. I have found the GT1000 to be comfortable, fun to ride & no more expensive to run than previous bikes from Germany & Japan.
1. Yes it can be done... it will cost you a few quid though - they've got different swingarms, exhaust, not sure about the subframe and then the obvious - seat, pegs etc. Bear in mind that monoposto version was available for only one year (2006) and it's more sought after and tends to fetch higher prices. So yes it can be done but you're much better off looking for a biposto version. 2. As said above. 3. DS1000 is a pretty simple engine... and even if something does go wrong it should be reasonably easy to fix. Suspension may need tweaking, there were problems reported with a regulator/rectifier and fuel connectors on the base of the fuel pump are a bit shite and sometimes fail (there's a better aftermarket part available)... nothing too scary :wink:
Thanks for the replies all! It sounds better and better. With regard the GT1000 - You are right to mention it and it is not ruled out by any means, in fact it could be ideal (although I do like the Cafe Racer nose over the front wheel , bum in air stance - I've rode several low bar/high arse type bikes and never had a problem with it including sore wrists which I don't seem to be affected by ....at 5' 8" maybe it's not a problem??? ) Now all I've got to worry about is finding one on the market (apart from the Paul Smart going for an *ahem* ambitious amount of money (££££ ) and has been on the market for eons...)
Hi Triang.I have owned both the GT1000 and a Sport Classic S,enjoying every minute with them.The GT1000 was used for touring and was very good.The only fault I had was a Rec/Reg fail after about 5000 miles.The Sport was used for shorter runs,mainly because the riding position had me aching after about 50miles.However the previous owner had toured Europe on it.He was a bit taller than me,I too am 5'8". Both of them very nice bikes.
Some GT1000 owners in North America have fitted lower handlebars to the GT1000. You could also fit rearsets to a GT1000. Might be an option worth considering?
Ah ok - that gives me more scope (GT with clip ons/rearsets) thanks Regarding pain on riding - I dunno why I don't get affected (mind you I haven't tried the Sport Classic yet ) but my type of riding is usually 60 miles at a time anyway - 120 return trips are common with the very occasional 230 miler one way when going to the IOM TT in which case I stop every 50 miles for a bum scratch and a fag/coffee. I have rode a D675 like this for years with no problem.
If you're taking a pillion I can recommend the Ventura grab rail/rack options. I have the grab rail fitted to my GT & Her Indoors is quite happy as she prefers to hang onto a grab rail behind the seat rather than the handles fitted to the side of the seat on some bikes. There is a Ducati Performance chrome rack, but I have heard that it is prone to corrosion. No such issues with the Ventura kit - I've used it for almost 4 years now.
Hi Triang. I have a 2008 SC1000s in red which i have owned from new. I suffer with a bad neck and although my wife advised me not to buy it, i could not resist the gorgeous looks. I am thinking now that i may have to sell it and think it must be worth 6k. The bike is in Leics. don't know if this is what you were looking for?
Conversion from bip to mono is straightforward , I have all the parts in my shed (will swap or sell ) . Forks , wheels and brakes are all the cheapest ducati could find , and are rubbish . Perversely this adds to the appeal of the bike as fixing these problems is fun . Engine paint is rubbish , all ducatis of this period are prone to it falling off. I think that there are more monos in the uk than bips , as ducati usually sell more of a model in its first year . In fact the shop I worked for at this time sold more PS1000s than std bikes . (Always be wary of Italians selling limited additions !)
Thanks for the info , didn't know that web site , what did I say ... "Always be wary of Italians selling ltd editions ! " .... Far more desmosedici in the uk than sport classic 1000 bips !
Just my 3 pennys worth. You have to be careful with the DVLA model classifications that this website gets its data from. The model name entered on the registration document by the dealer (or admin staff) depends on their diligence. For instance I remember a kerfuffle on a BMW (car) forum when someone pointed out that there was only 3 BMW 325 (or whatever I can't remember which model ) automatics ever registered in the UK when the poster knew of at least 5 in his club. The reason was that the diligent dealer entered 'BMW 325 Automatic' when the car was new whereas the dealer in a hurry and frustrated by the form filling just entered 'BMW 325'. It was worse in busy mass market dealers where they would have to register hundreds of Ford Mondeos for a bulk order from Hertz. You often got 'Ford Mondeo 2.0 Ghia Automatic' and Ford Mondeo 2.0 Ghia' and Ford Mondeo 2.0... sometimes just 'Ford Mondeo' for the same car! Transfer that to Ducatis and it's easy to see that 'Biposto' could be left off - I wouldn't be surprised if there were a fair few registered as a 'Ducati 1000' :wink:
Thinking about adding a Termignoni exhaust to the mix now - I was surprised how expensive they are - phew! Apart from the sound (and an extra 2bhp) do you think they're worth it? Any downsides?
I don't think so , by this time all officially imported ducatis had the documents to register the bikes printed by ducati uk . This means the homologation code for the bike and model name is done via the frame number and the factories records . Karen at ducati uk is very keen on making sure there are no errors . Very few sportclassics were "grey" imported new into the uk as they were cheaper here than anywhere except USA . Some are now coming into the uk second hand as the price and demand in the uk is quite high . As for termigs , they are expensive , but tend to retain a strong second hand value . They are no longer available from ducati so this helps maintain second hand values . In my experience the main advantage is mid range gains . They come with an ecu that allows the removal of the O2 sensors so fuelling is much better if the CO levels are set accurately . The Zard " trombone " system is a matter of taste , don't like it much myself and it sounds awful . It will not fit biposto models . If you fit aftermarket pipes , I'd suggest that you buy a ducati race ecu or get yours reflashed so your engine runs for performance instead of euro daftness . I think Wilf at moto rapido can do a reflash for you . If you fit a race ecu remember to open up the top of the air box .
Hey Iceman / Bungle thanks for that - that gives me some options to work with. Also didn't realise that Ducati UK did the registrations at source - makes sense. As to the Zard noise - I haven't heard them as my only source is Youtube for pipe sounds!