oil for 1260s says she’ll 4t 15w -50 fully synthentic. None of my local stores have this , can I use other oil, say 10w-50 or 15w -40 ?? Does it matter
Your manual will state different oil types for different regional temperature ranges. So long as you're in the right range, crack on.
Personally, I've always respected the weight and type but rarely given a rats arse who the maker is. I'd avoid using different weights and types.
10W50 would be preferable to 15W40. 1 number/grade up or down is not a big difference. See below underlined...since we do not have warm climate in UK I even dare to say 10W50 is a better option. 15W50 Colour Visual Green Viscosity grade SAE J 300 15W-50 Density at 20°C (68°F) ASTM D1298 0.877 Viscosity at 40°C (104°F) ASTM D445 138.7 mm²/s Viscosity at 100°C (212°F) ASTM D445 18.3 mm²/s Viscosity Index ASTM D2270 148 Pour point ASTM D97 -30°C / -22°F Flash point ASTM D92 232°C / 449°F TBN ASTM D2896 7.5 mg KOH/g 10W50 Color Visual Red Viscosity grade SAE J 300 10W-50 Density at 20°C (68°F) ASTM D1298 0.861 Viscosity at 40°C (104°F) ASTM D445 120.5 mm²/s Viscosity at 100°C (212°F) ASTM D445 18.1 mm²/s Viscosity Index ASTM D2270 167 Pour point ASTM D97 -33°C / -27.4°F Flash point ASTM D92 232°C / 449.6°F TBN ASTM D2896 8.4 mg KOH/g
no halfords near you? https://www.halfords.com/motoring/m...MIwoa5rrS14wIVxrTtCh0mIgHxEAQYASABEgLQ-_D_BwE Or you can get the shell from workington Euro car parts Workington Unit 1 Lillyhall Estate, West Hallwood Road, Workington CA14 4PW https://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/p/...MI2Ziy7bS14wIVSbTtCh0PdAp4EAQYAiABEgIq7PD_BwE orr same shell from Opie Oil, which is in the traders section https://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-69342-...50-performance-synthetic-bike-engine-oil.aspx https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/threa...ions-from-oilman-opie-oils.1227/#post-1357889
The older bikes stated this, the 2015 onwards 1200 DVT states only 15w-50 to be used. Have they changed it back again?
No, they still recommend 15w50 but don't state only. They just don't give the handy chart like they used to. Same principal applies though in that there are overlapping oil types for our climate.
This is what it states in the manual... I read that as only use 15W-50, hence no table like they used to show. I also read somewhere the DVT is designed to operate with a heavier oil. Could be just hearsay of course.
Is the DVT an air cooled motor? That's what they normally state for them although there is always debate over which oil grade to use for desmo's. You want a low number for cold starts (15W/50) and a high number for normal operating temperature (15W/50) water cooled motors were normally quoted as 10W/40 but some people favour 10W/50 or 15W/50 as it is thought the thicker oil will stick better to the rockers and limit wear on cold starts (prepare for lengthy oil discussion ). Don't ever go for a higher 'low' number i.e. 20W/50 as that will be too thick on cold start when you really need it. Buy a motorcycle grade 4T 15W/50 oil from a reputable brand and you won't go wrong - or order the recommended Shell oil online.
That's very handy, thanks for searching and linking the options mate. I am about to run the 2nd year service on mine and did not had time to search yet. Gosh, Shell ultra for 20 quid a litre!? Even applying the discount on ECP, still sums up £52. I think I will go for Mobil 1 at Halfords. Still need the oil filter, but if no wrong I believe it was only £8ish last year. Thanks!
the halfords didnt have any when i was in, but i can get to euro car parts as long as they arent part of border cars that just went bust last week
Oly, Why not try Car Parts 4 Less. I've recently ordered and received very quickly I hasten to add, a litre of the Shell oil suggested as required by Ducati, for £12.10 delivered. Still not that cheap, but better than Rover's quote above! Give these guys a try and see how you get on. (carparts4less.co.uk) Regards TonyMN
Euro car parts are the only local shop for me which stocks the Shell oil. They also seem to do regular deals usually better than this current one https://www.eurocarparts.com/15w50-engine-oil
Nicked from the Total website FAQ's Viscosity is notated with the common "XW-XX." The number preceding the "W" rates the oil's flow at 0 degrees Fahrenheit (-17.8 degrees Celsius). The "W" stands for winter, not weight as many people think. The lower the number here, the less it thickens in the cold. So 5W-30 viscosity engine oil thickens less in the cold than a 10W-30, but more than a 0W-30. An engine in a colder climate, where motor oil tends to thicken because of lower temperatures, would benefit from 0W or 5W viscosity. A car in Death Valley would need a higher number to keep the oil from thinning out too much. The second number after the "W" indicates the oil's viscosity measured at 212 degrees Fahrenheit (100 degrees Celsius). This number represents the oil's resistance to thinning at high temperatures. For example, 10W-30 oil will thin out at higher temperatures faster than 10W-40 will. Monograde oils such as SAE 30, 40 or 50 are no longer used in latest automotive engines, but may be required for use in some vintage and antique engines. Straight SAE 30 oil is often specified for small air-cooled engines in lawnmowers, garden tractors, portable generators and gas-powered chain saws.
Nicked from the Valvoline website: OIL TYPES, WEIGHTS & VISCOSITY FAQ Is it ok to switch motor oil weights, for example, from a 5W-20 to a 10W-30? It depends. Some vehicle manufacturers provide a range of recommended motor oil viscosity grades based on the outside temperature in which the car is driven. Other manufacturers recommend the use of only one motor oil viscosity grade. For best engine performance, always follow the manufacturer's recommendations found in your vehicle’s owner’s manual. Is it ok to use 5W-30 in a car if the owner's manual calls for 5W-20? Valvoline does not recommend doing this. Using a heavier grade than recommended may cause decrease in fuel economy, higher engine loads and eventually shortened engine life. Using a lighter grade than recommended may result in excessive mechanical wear and reduced engine life. For maximum engine performance, follow the recommended motor oil viscosity and maintenance schedule provided in your vehicle's owner's manual. What does the "w" in a grade of motor oil stand for? The "w" in motor oil stands for winter. The first number in the oil classification refers to a cold weather viscosity. The lower this number is, the less viscous your oil will be at low temperatures. For example, a 5W- motor oil will flow better at lower temperatures than a 15W- motor oil. The higher number, following the “w” refers to hot weather viscosity, or how fluid your oil is at hot temperatures. The higher the number, the thicker the oil at a specified temperature. Is thicker oil better? In some circumstances, thicker oil can be used to compensate for increased bearing clearances (gaps between bearing and rotating shaft) that have developed over the years. A large change in bearing clearances can result in poorer lubrication. For best performance always follow the recommendations for motor oil viscosity in your vehicle's owner's manual. When does it make sense to use straight weight oil (SAE30) versus a multigrade oil (5W-30)? Straight weight oil is never recommended for use in a system that requires a multi-viscosity oil. Straight weight oils are generally recommended for smaller engines or older vehicles that were made before multi-viscosity oils were produced. Is switching types of motor oil (conventional, synthetic, etc.) harmful to my vehicle's engine? Conventional, synthetic blend, synthetic and high mileage motor oils are compatible and will not harm your vehicle's engine. For maximum engine performance, follow the motor oil type recommendation provided in your vehicle’s owner’s manual. Is it true that older cars must only use conventional oil? No. Do I have to wait until my car reaches 75,000 miles before I can use MaxLife? Valvoline MaxLife motor oil is designed for high mileage vehicles of 75,000 miles or more. However, it is perfectly acceptable to use the high mileage motor oil in new or used vehicles with less than 75,000 miles. Has MaxLife always been a synthetic blend motor oil? MaxLife Synthetic Blend motor oil is actually the same product as regular MaxLife. MaxLife has always been a synthetic blend oil; we just now label the product that way. As long as you have used MaxLife, you have used synthetic blended oil. How do Valvoline full synthetic motor oils compare to Mobil 1 and Amsoil? Valvoline's full synthetic motor oils meet and exceed the same specifications as these two products. Valvoline full synthetic motor oils are high performing, high-quality oils formulated with full synthetic base oils and top tier additives to provide an increased level of performance. All of Valvoline's full synthetic motor oils are API licensed to ensure quality for North American vehicle application. We have specially designed Valvoline SynPower 5w40 for application in high performance European or diesel passenger cars and this oil carries the specific OEM approvals such as Mercedes Benz, Volkswagen, Porsche and BMW. Our North American SynPower 5w20, 5w30 and 10w30 exceed ILSAC GF-5 requirements and carry the API starburst on the front label. Valvoline full synthetic motor oils are designed with extra levels of detergent and antioxidant to provide outstanding deposit and heat protection.
Whilst Shell isn’t the essential bit, the grade is. 15W/50 is recommended so as not to give problems with the oil control valves on the DVT system. I’d suggest and I use Motul in customers bikes. Easier to find in the correct grade
I got a litre from Amazon for £11.51 including delivery https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01G3OQ474/ref=pe_3187911_185740111_TE_item Dispatched from Euro Car Parts
