Passport Control

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by PerryL, May 21, 2021.

  1. When/if I ever get my license back one intended trip was Ireland.

    I think (from memory) that you don't need a passport to go to Ireland from the UK - some old agreement that allowed UK citizens to pretend that we still own Ireland, I think. But then you are in the EU and can get a ferry to France. I thought, since time will not be a factor, I could do just Ireland and leave NI for another trip (with the IOM), and then go to France.

    Does this mean that I can get to France without showing my passport?

    I hope to do this trip on my ST3 when I get it together. If I can't and have bought my KTM, are KTMs allowed in Oreland? I know that Ducatis are, as I've done that before.
     
  2. I think travelling anywhere outside the UK without a passport risks being denied entry.

    There is some talk now that travelling to the EU will require a verification of where you will be staying before entering the Country.
     
  3. Obviously not.
     
  4. Well that will be a new one. I've been travelling to France since before we were in the EU. Never had a clue where I would be staying until I got there - and have slept in a field, before!

    I'm am not greatly bothered as if travel is made too difficult then I won't - simple.
     
  5. My question was: where will they check? On arrival in France where 99.99% of the passengers are either European or Orish, do they bother to check passports. On leaving Ireland, where the same applies?
     
  6. Did you need one last year or year before to travel to France?
     
  7. I think you can guarantee they will be checking most UK passports for a while.

    In any case we will no longer be able to go through the EU clearance queues with all the other Europeans.
     
  8. Dunno but I've never travelled from Ireland to France, directly before. That is what I am wondering about.
     
  9. I’ve never not had my passport checked going to France even.

    and I go a lot.
     
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  10. So what makes you think Ireland to France is any different from England to France last year pre brexit?
     
  11. I certainly have not heard that, and AFAIK Brits are given leave to enter for six months travel so giving an address seems ridiculous. Do you have any links to this subject?
     
  12. You look dodgy though to be fair and yes whenever i’ve been to France my passport has always been checked. Only time my passport wasn’t checked was when I flew to Northern Ireland. Oddly also when I came back from Eire couple of years ago.
     
  13. Ireland is not part of the Schengen area, therefore passport checks are required to and from it to Europe. So no, you won't get to France without showing your passport.
     
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  14. If that’s the duke bloke chipping in with all his negativity, ignore his bollocks and find out facts. (I’m on his ignore so can’t see but it shows as he’s commented).

    I haven’t been on a ferry for years but you had to go thru passport control. Why would a ferry from EIRe be any different?
     
  15. Going thru the tunnel and you were never stopped at the kiosks?! I’ve done it dozens and always had a check even if cursory wave thru: no passport, no entry
     
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  16. Last time I came back from Eire my passport wasn’t checked, going or coming back not saying they don’t just my experience. The controls were there but no one seemed interested enough to stop us and we were in a huge White van.....if only I’d known.
     
  17. We are only allowed three months travel, not six. Then have to leave and wait 3 months before being allowed back.

    The attestation d’accueil is a bit of a grey area. Some say its OK to travel without one if you do not need a visa in the first place (which Brits currently don't), others, including the foreign office, suggest its better to have one. As it stands if a border guard says you are not coming in, i doubt you would be able to argue the point.
    Brexit has denied us Brits of so many freedoms.

    This is a section from a website for Brits living in France.

    Reader question: I have been told that people living in France who plan to host friends or family from the UK for holidays must get an attestation d’accueil from their mairie to certify details of the guests due to Brexit. Is this correct and, if so, how does that work?

    This is a timely question with many UK nationals preparing to visit family and friends - as well as second homes - in France when foreign travel opens up in the UK on May 17.

    All non-EU residents entering France for a short holiday are officially required to be able to prove where they will be staying, the French government states on its web page dedicated to Brexit (scroll down to the first FAQ and look for the clause marked [1]).

    For visiting Britons planning to stay at a friend or family member’s home, the official requirement is that the host obtains an attestation d’accueil from their local mairie - at the cost of €30 per document. The host then needs to send a copy to their visitor/s to present to border agents if asked [see UPDATE note at bottom of this page].

    The attestation d’accueil is not a new document linked to Brexit and has been in use for non-EU citizens entering the EU for some time.

    The French government website here explains that all non-EU short term tourists who come to stay with family or friends, as opposed to in a hotel or other tourist accommodation, must have an attestation d’accueil.
     

  18. Yeah that’s what I meant mate

    I’ve always had it checked. Always !
     
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  19. The question was simple (so, I thought) and I have now found the answer myself.

    I didn't appreciate that the Schengen agreement is the driver. Ireland is not in that anyway - so, whether Orish or English, you need to show a passport to go into France from Ireland.
    Wiki has no word on whether KTMs are banned, so my options are open.

    Still wanna do it, though.
     
  20. Hmm that’s France off the menu then.
     
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