Potholes!

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by Kirky, Feb 4, 2014.

  1. So as a nation our Government can justify spending over £50 Billion on HS2 while forcing road maintenance savings on Councils, who maintain 90% of our roads.These are false savings in the long run.

    Result is cheap short term repairs that don't last and the dramatic rise in compensation for the damage caused to vehicles. There is also the safety of roadusers and we are all particularly vulnerable on two wheels.

    So a few people in Westminster can drive through this very unpopular rail infrastructure project while I am confident 80-85% of the population would put having safe, usable good roads as a far more important use of our resources.

    So what can we do? One thing is to COMPLAIN. Write to your MP, complain to your Council and the Highways Agency. These complaints won't be ignored; I've been amazed recently that complaints about litter made in person to the McDonalds Manager has brought an immediate improvement. Another complaint about overweight 40' Artics using a small B road as a shortcut has also had a big reaction; A traffic police/weights and measures team out within days and a call to me in the evening. It almost seemed like they needed some ammunition in order to act.

    So don't just shrug your shoulders and accept it - get online and complain now!

    Mr Grumpy
     
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  2. FixMyStreet
    One option is to send your comments and complaints via this website. If the council don't respond, FixMyStreet keep chasing after them. I have found it very effective.
     
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  3. Me too :upyeah:
     
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    How's this for a pothole ? Almost big enough to lose an entire Land Rover in...
    The road from Bertha's Beach back to Mare Harbour, East Falkland.
    Little potholes in the UK never seem so bad after a drive down south...
     
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  5. Lots of good points. Another one would be the fact that we have a tax system which relives motorists of much money, to some extent directly proportional to their use of roads, via fuel duty, but none of it is hypothecated for road maintenance. Re complaints, I have certainly found that reporting potholes can result in them being filled in (not necessarily very well) but I thought that was simply because the council is taking a risk with legal liability once they have been informed about one.

    However, a big difference with McDonalds is that they really care about their public image and know only too well that customers are customers and can go to Burger King instead.
     
  6. Not exactly average ice and frost damage like the UK though..........more like a misplaced item that fell out of a Vulcan (and I don't mean Mr Spock's poo).
     
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  7. One of the local council areas I ride through every day seem to be on a major repair campaign at the moment, they're even grinding out the edges, rolling and sealing the edges (not making it properly flat but 8/10 for effort).

    They're also resurfacing some of the busier junctions. It's all a bit strange really.

    And then I left the roundabout at the top of the M606 into Bradford this morning and they'd decided to chuck a few hundred tons of gravel down Mayo Avenue. Which is great, if you put some warning signs up. I had about a 50m run up to it from the lights, was doing maybe 25mph..... Tipped into the turn, saw the road surface, closed throttle and dabbed the rear brake, I did the type of skid I used to do on wet grass on my BMX, sprayed gravel everywhere and kicked up a nice big dust cloud. I went back to have a look and there must've been an inch of loose gravel across most of the road (nice big skid mark though it!).

    The sweepers must've been in at some point today as there was no longer big heaps of gravel everywhere on way out again. The warning signs started about 100m after the gravel did which isn't much use, just glad I wasn't joining from the M606 itself as you can carry a fair bit of speed through the lights if they work in your favour.
     
  8. if I carried out a dodgy repair and someone was injured I would end up in court....soooooo why are the councils allowed to carry out blatant dodgy repairs in full knowledge they are only arse covering, ie duty bound to repair in a time period but not a quality repair.
     
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  9. They cover it by placing 10mph signs on stretches they've made dangerous. That's in the full knowledge that 10mph is ridiculous in a car and bloody nigh impossible (if not even more dangerous) on a bike. "You were warned"...so the fault then lies with you if anything untoward should happen....................... Wish it were that easy in a factory :Banghead:
     
  10. i dont think placing of signs makes em any less liable. could be wrong.
     
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  11. Given that the target of the Black Buck raids was 35 miles away, and 33 years ago I think I can safely say that you are, on this occasion, completely wrong.
    The bomb craters from the Vulcan attacks on Stanley airport can still be seen on the ground - if you know where to look - and, indeed, on Google Earth.
    This, however, is in fact damage to the Bertha's Beach road caused by the weather - wind, frost, snow, rain and ice...
     
  12. I do know where the bombs were dropped and I'm perfectly aware of where the runway is......

    .....It was only a joke FFS...........
     
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  13. Thank goodness for traction control and ABS brakes, eh?
     
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  14. You're maybe right, but how else do they get away with it? I've never heard of anyone successfully claiming for an accident caused by road top dressing. And there must have been many.
     
  15. sure i read on here once, think thats why farmers dont put mud on road signs up, due to it making them liable.
     
  16. Any driver/rider of a vehicle on public roads is obligated to drive carefully, and to anticipate common problems and hazards like variable road surfaces, stopped vehicles, loose pedestrians, etc.

    If there is an accident and the driver wants to claim it is someone else's fault, he has to demonstrate that whatever caused the accident was somehow above and beyond the ordinary hazards of the road; that he could not reasonably have anticipated it; and that it was someone else's negligence which was the principal cause.

    Roads often get repaired, and this process often involves loose gravel, tar, etc. as everybody knows. The driver trying to bring a claim would have quite a hurdle to jump, to prove his crash was the fault of the negligence of road repairers not himself. Such claims occasionally succeed.
     
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  17. The government stopped pretending road tax was to fix the roads decades ago, and they'll happily tell you the bulk of it goes towards things like the NHS. That doesn't help the hapless motorist of course.
     
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  18. Hardly any taxes are hypothecated, and road taxes certainly aren't. TV Licensing is one of the few which really are hypothecated. Council Tax goes only to local authorities, but is not hypothecated any more closely than that.

    Politicians in meandering speeches often veer vaguely towards hypothecation, but they soon pull back when they realise what a stupid idea it would be.
     
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