Asked about this a while back, told some have done it ,called mce today and was told will not be insured if you swap so be warned you could loose it all if you have a claim
And what ridiculous restriction will be next? possibly, must use oem parts, i.e. brake pads, or lines? when will this stop?
I find it doesn't and wont tighten the line once your on it , but it was to get a more orientated road tyre whats good in all conditions not the o/e one which is more track/road but being a 200 your limited for choice , and yes spyke its a piss take but insurers will look for every get out clause they can, after all most if not all 1000cc bikes come with 190 rears on,
Yep, the 200 can be a bit slow... But.....could you not tweak the sag and compression a bit to lower the nose slightly? i have some long awaited Pirelli Diablo Rosso corsa's just in........ pairs only 120/70 + 200/55 fitted to bike £278 fitted to loose wheels £255...... you'll need to get to Bristol, nice ride out and scrub in!!!
raised the rear ride height 2 turns ,didn't make much difference ,conti sport attacks 2, do a 200 rear I had them on an s1000rr and people slagged them off something rotten but I thought they were a great road tyre ,might try them if I keep it , don't feel like you've got much grip off the o/e tyre unless its really warmed up ,last time out it was much colder and the tyre felt shit, bristols a bit far from the north east , have those pirreli tyre just come out this size?
Yes, and a long time waiting!, what town? I may be able to help but no promises...... Pm me if ness thx
Fuck the insurer. Std answer from some fuckwit who should be packing tampax and has no idea what they are talking about
WELL SAID, so the insurer has a problem with a different size tyre eh? what would they say if they found a tyre that was 15 years old, yep , nothing! just shows how stupid it is.
insurers love to take your money but look for every get out clause poss not just bikes but house insurance ,,phones etc they take the piss because they are allowed to ,
You have to ask yourself why ducati feel the need to fit limited sized tyres to their bikes, no wait... You don't, it's because of back handers from Pirelli I mean lets get this right, ducati has a traction control system that doesn't learn new tyre profiles (apparently) and they also happen to whack on the 200 rear on the 1199, a 180/60 on the 899 & SF848? All profiles made by pirelli in the main but admittedly not limited to just them. now I see the value in a 200 rear to some extent as I run the supercorsas (BSB scrubs) on my R1 but not on a road going 1199, possibly the R but on the road it makes not one bit of sense at all. kinda stinks of trying to lock customers in to me. Aprilia have aprc electronics which they give you (the owner) the ability to re calibrate the TC setting to any new tyre profile, you just ride along at circa 25mph and when it's finished you turn it off and back on again, hey presto TC all done. are you telling me Ducati can't do that or is it more a case of they don't want you to do that because of an arrangement with Pirelli
That's an interesting point about the Aprilia's. The only justification I've read for the 60 part of the profile is that it gives a bigger footprint when lent over. If it's that good, why are the majority of bikes fitted with 180/55 these days? I have to say I'm inclined to agree with damodici above. They are both Italian companies. My 848 Evo certainly felt a lot nicer, to me, when I changed to Sportsmarts.
Having changed just a rear Back to back, from 55 to 65 I can say categorically it turns way faster! Suspect it may be little more susceptible to movement on a straight, hence they don't use the, on the road?? But when you look at the profile, you cam see at 3/4 lean you have mor rubber down than upright
MCE, by far the worst insurance broker I have ever dealt with in my 26 years of motoring. As said, employs cluless kids that failed to get a job at Tesco stacking beans.
I wouldn't argue with that Bradders. The sharper profile is going to wear out the centre of the tyre a lot quicker though, especially for road use. Maybe the '55' normal option is the best compromise?
So what's the view of switching from a 60 to 55 profile on an 899? Trying to switch on my bike before collecting from my dealer. I want to ride it through the winter but not on sunny day Tyres. Planning on fitting Michelin Pilot Road 3's. Dealer says the traction won't work and might invalidate warranty!
yes I heard the same about the 1199 ,if you go to a 190,, seems a pain in the arse that you have to more or less stick with the tyres the bike came on ,yes there good on a dry ,hot , sunny day but the other 300 days in the year the are shite,
I tried to contact Ducati UK for a view. Told all the staff are in Italy so try a dealer for advice. Riders of Bristol don't know what would happen to the T/C. Emailed Ducati Italy first thing thus morning. No answer as yet. Bit disappointed with the absense of a tyre for normal road use. Seems no manufacturer is even thinking of producing a 60 profile rear. Odd thing is that 60 profile is the std super stock tyre in BSB 600's now. What do the BSB teams run on wet races bearing in mind they have to run road legal Pirellis? .
they are allowed full wets ,was told today off a ducati dealer there is a new Michelin power supersport tyre coming out now but when ive had a look it seems a more track day tyre ,so no further forward , think I will try ducati tomorrow,
I just find it unbelievable that they don't have the ability to supply or allow the owner to plug in alternative algorithms for the TC system to compensate for a different profile tyre, thus throwing up issues like the insurance thing. Ducati , unless I'm mistaken, were one of the first to supply road going TC packages on mass produced bikes. So why on earth is the system they still provide on the top end sportsbike so limited?
