.........well nearly........ Update: Police name biker killed in horror crash - News - East Anglian Daily Times I ride that road regularly....so how the hell did it happen? (Apart from the obvious). AL.
Never nice rip old fella But 82 and dying riding your bike. Tbh I can't think of a better way to go. And at least he had his leathers on entering the pearly gates.
Sad what did surprise me was that lady. She seen a bloke face down in bike gear not moving. What did she do in stead of grabbing a mobile dialling 999 she went to get her husband. Unless he is a doctor with all A&E equipment at home what is the point?
You never know and we will never know but TBH if she had no mobile she would have said I went back home to call 999. No she clearly went back home to get hubby rather then ambulance.
People do strange things when they are confronted with this kind of thing. Some do all they can to help (this may itself be out of character), while others act selfishly but you only know what category you fall into when its in front of you. Better way to go than becoming a veg.
Very true. I was sadly first at the scene of a head on with a car. I'm not medically qualified but you just knew he was dead. After calling ambulance etc people arrived and started just staring!!!! No video etc can prepare you for that. I Hope I'm still riding at his age.
I have to say having just done a theory test I can honestly say that even though I know all the correct answers for how to react at an accident it is not always so easy to do exactly what is expected when under pressure. I trust that I would because I grew up at an accident black spot long before mobile phones so we were asked way too often for help, the first answer is always 999, or local hospital number 788100, oh my goodness I have not lived there for 25 years and I still know the number for the hospital!
I went down that road the day before (it's part of my test run about half a mile from me) and I spotted a small diesel spill right on the bend (well, I smelled it first).....apart from 82 and just getting it wrong (maybe a reborn biker, not used to the bike) (maybe suicide) (maybe heart attack); ignoring the 30mph speed limit; bike / mechanical failure; etc etc.....the road was probably slightly damp so could there have been a residue of diesel there?? I always try to find out the cause of bike accidents, largely because I simply don't understand why they occur where they do......from what I have seen, the bike was on the tarmac even before it should have been because of the small gouges in the road....but it would have taken one helluva handful of throttle to lose it on that bend, particularly on a 125cc 'cruiser'; and major braking for the bend is un-necessary if within the speed limit. I have been past the site six times in the past two days (for other reasons, mind you) but I frankly am really puzzled how he did it. AL. PS...Perhaps someone will puzzle in the same way over my next crash when it happens...........but I doubt it very much....
It looks like she lived close by and who knows she may have got hubby to ring 999 then went to see if they could help That's the trouble with reporting Some people have a flight reaction to danger where others have a fight Panic causes choas
Its all very well to find fault with someones actions at the scene of an accident but unless you are trained or have a knowledge of first aid you can cause more harm than good by moving an accident victim, if in doubt call for help, in this incident with hindsight there may have been other actions she could have taken. This probably highlights the need for first aid education for all, it only needs to be basic training such as what to check and what actions to carry out depending on what symptoms the person is displaying. Broken bones are painful but not life threatening restricted breathing will kill you, spinal injuries could lead to paralyses.
Broken bones are dangerous The Humerous and Femur have arteries close by and broken bones moved the wrong way can soon sever one of those and then its less than a minute before lights out. If you are going to start moving unconcious people you need more than one person and you both need to know what you are doing.
It's also agony to be touched when suffering fracture and dislocation No one could touch me without being in agony I agree you need to know what your doing or you could be inflicting more hurt or damage to someone. Being talked to and kept calm is a great help when your scared and hurting.
Higgy first aid is simple on that one. Can he breath Yes leave him be if possible. No do what ever you can to get him breathing he will die if he does not start. What if, the broken bones/arteries argument is not valid as you might or you might not damage arteries but he will be dead very quickly if he does not breathe. Same goes towards spinal injuries. If he is in a pool of burning petrol screw the spinal injuries man will burn to death.
As a first aider, which is just that 'first aid', the role is to preserve life till help arrives. If a casualty is not breathing, their gonna die, if you hurt them due to non immobilised breaks or at worst cause paralysis in your attempt to maintain their breathing, then life is a bitch.........you don't need to worry about pain or paralysis when your dead. Sever an artery....you won't need them if their not full of oxygenated blood, your gonna die from lack of oxygen if your not breathing. It's due to irresponsible reporting like this that makes people look the other way and reluctant to help. Sue me for paralysingly you....maybe, complain when your dead not a chance!
Ok I understood it differently so sorry for that. In such case not only broken bones are a hidden danger that people ignore. Internal bleeding can be made worse by moving a person, brain injury as well there is probably more. In short to educate those that are reading this. If someone is not breathing ignore any other what if's as long as you will be safe when helping him help him. Short rule any immediate danger than can kill a accident victim should be attended to no matter what it is. Secondary injuries as a result of that are just that a secondary injury as person is alive which would not be the case if you did not act. I feel quite strongly about this as there is few very simple things you can always do that might save a person, yet many do not do it. Explaining them does not help anyone. They should receive a constructive criticism. Sorry but going back to get her husband (unless it was flash speed so few seconds) could possibly cost that blokes life. It is about 30s of no oxygen to brain before you die. Going back home would have lasted at least that. I guess there is the same rule as used in Poland during 1st aid. The first 5 minutes are the golden minutes. If you waste 1 min to go get someone rather then taking action by dialling 999 you delay arrival of help. You can call ambulance and go get husband at the same time if he was able to help.
It's no good I finally have to comment on where this is going, but there is only a few things that you need to remember, ABC. A Airway, is it clear B Breathing, are they C, Circulation, is the blood getting to the extremities (probably cannot do anything about this one unless you are a professional. The Highway Code says that you should dial 999 then leave them where they are, give mouth to mouth if necessary, apply pressure to any cuts to stem the blood flow, and keep them warm. Apart from that wait for the professionals they know what they are doing. I truly hope that I would be able to remember that if I came across an accident.
