848 Seat/cowling Lock Not Unlocking

Discussion in '848 / 1098 / 1198' started by Trusty848, Oct 4, 2016.

  1. Hi all... just taken delivery of my '13 848 Evo, and the rear seat lock won't disengage the lock... the key turns, but no click and release.

    Anyone know how to get inside and diagnose/resolve the problem?

    Thanks
     
  2. It's a sealed unit in there so you're only going in the through the locking mechanism.

    Pretty sure there's a thread that someone posted how a mechanic managed to pull the entire lock out without busting the paint/plastic.

    Disclaimer: I wouldn't try doing it myself!
     
  3. Damn.... cheers for the info.
     
  4. I'll take some pics of the inside and the mechanism from my Evo. At least you'll know what you're dealing with rather than figuring it out blindly.
     
  5. That is really good of you, Jim. Very appreciated.
     
  6. Worse than I thought mate, can't even see the mechanism. Best bet would be to to remove the tail if you can - unless someone else has a better idea. Can't see how else you'll get in.

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  7. Have a look at the photos and maybe push down on the seat where the release mechanism is while turning the key. I have to do this on my triumph and it uses the same style of lock. Worth a go
     
  8. Yeah, that's a good call actually. It's spring loaded so it may just need a bit of help. There's not much going on in there so there's seldom a reason to open it much.
     
  9. Sadly, tried that already... :(

    But will give it another shot... never know... might just get lucky...
     
  10. Thanks for the images Jim... it looks very sealed.... :/
     
  11. Other options are finding access to the barrel so you can stop it turning, which is what it must be doing. Either that or try and get to the bolt that's holding the spring loaded seat pin on the seat.

    Unbolt the riding seat and see if you can get to it that way. Failing that, rear light removal or perhaps the bolting area where the number plate/tail tidy would go. Basically you just need to get something in there to stop the barrel turning. Then apply pressure on the seat and try again.

    Edit: you'd know if the barrel was turning or not as the lock face would turn. After rereading your first post id say getting to the locking mechanism where the seat engages is the best port of call. See if you can manually disengage it with a push/pull.
     
    #11 Jim2wheels, Oct 5, 2016
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  12. All good advice! Thanks again.
     
  13. For anyone else whose bike develops a similar issue... I was able to see the problem by removing the rider's seat and using one of those small inspection mirrors on a telescopic arm... the cable has indeed come loose from the barrel assembly. On the plus side, although I wasn't able to fully disassemble the tail unit (I couldn't work it out), I was able to locate the cable and have now positioned it near one of the bolts retaining the rider's seat. Quick tug with some needle nose pliers and I don't even have to remove the seat to swap the pillions seat for cowling.
     
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  14. Thanks for updating this thread with the outcome, nice to know you got it sorted and at the same time helping others that might find themselves in the same situation.

    Guvs.
     
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