I took my 2011 1200s to have the warranty coolant change done on Thursday. The sales team were chuffed to have the 1st 2013 Multistrada demonstrator delivered that day and wanted my opinion as an existing owner. I like some of the tweaks carried out by Ducati, the reshaped screen and headlights looked good, as did the new 'Red' button on the switchgear. The fairing small storage cover is all new with a much improved fit and opening action. The action of the screen adjuster was good for ease of use especially on the fly, but it had so much play in the assembly. It just seemed cheap and nasty, with about half an inch of play in the movement!! The finish matt silver paintwork was poor, along with the edges of the black plastics being rough. The new shaped seat seemed to have a very harsh feel to it, almost as if just a very thin layer of foam padding being compressed before hitting the harsh plastic base (but I am on the large size, but something I never experienced on the current bikes standard or comfort seat). I love the Multistrada and what Ducati are doing to improve the model and hope that when actual production models come out they should be better finished than this demonstrator, but should we be confident of improvements. The sales guys were taking photos of all the little faults with the bike to report back to DUK, lets hope they take some notice of the feedback. I am also disappointed that there is no Carbon equipped bike as an option as of yet? The improved suspension and fueling aided with the twin spark head will be a great advance on the current model, I might even just have to buy one if Ducati get their act together on the finishing that is? Lets wait and see? If not, I will just keep my 2011 bike and carry on enjoying that. Bikergas - Chris
Quite surprised to see this available. Been on for over a week already. Ducati Multistrada 1200s Pikes Peak Brand new 2013 model in stock Motorcycle | eBay
Saw them at the NEC Friday. Quite liked some of the touches on the top touring model (can't remember the name), such as the proper hand guards and mirrors with indicators in. Nothing I saw though would warrant me to upgrade from my 2010 at the moment. My ideal upgrade would be a non-leccy suspension MS with a shaft and a 4/5 bolt rear wheel. Other disappointments included the Triumph Explorer XC (I really wanted to like this one) - a proper cheap looking bit of kit up close, nasty plastics abound and the shaft drive area and the torsion bar (?) looked like it was either made in Eastern Europe or was put together by the local blacksmith! The water cooled GS looked a poor relation to the air cooled Adventure models on the stand alongside it, didn't look too hard at the KTM as it is another chain drive. The only bike I felt was half worth considering test riding would be the Yamaha "world tourer" (?) as it at least looked like it may last more than a couple of years, but the near motocross tyres would have to come off it? A few days earlier while waiting to have my coolant changed, I noticed that the dealer had an example of my old bike, a 2007 1098S Tricolore for sale at near the same money that I sold mine to a pal for, 2 years ago (which was better than the trade-in valuation at the time). At the same time, they had a higher mileage version of my 2010 MS Sport at a grand less and I would guess it was traded at no more than £8k? That is a near enough £7k depreciation in 2 years on the MS! Very disappointing to see that. All things considered, I think I will have to stick with mine for at least another 3 years and just hope nothing major goes wrong in the interim, especially once the warranty disappears next May?
Very good post. I believe us early adopters are now getting nervous and twitchy as our bikes come into the 3 year era and milege is getting higher. I went through a stage of looking at other bikes to replace the Multi. It is a hard bike to replace. The Worldcrosser and especially the KTM were on my radar. Once you spec them both up to a decent level the price is similar to what I originally paid for the Multi. I would expect the depreciation would be the same so nigh on another new bike in depreciation over the life of the two bikes. I'm of the mind that the depreciation should level out now and I can take the occassional cost of any needed repairs knowing I can still be ahead of buying another new bike. As I say, the Multi is a very hard bike to replace.
Sure no matter what we change to we'll still lose money upgrading, trade in and then depreciation on new bike....nothing out there yet that will give the same buzz as the multi, so for me I'll just put a little money away for if anything goes wrong,,,and there is very little for the multi you can't buy used now they are getting a little older !
The problem is the more money a bike costs then the more value it has to depreciate. If you buy a £15k bike it loses £2,500 the minute you ride it out of the showroom as that is the VAT you have just paid to the government.
Agree with all that, but my point in my post above was the relative difference in depreciation between the Tricolore, which I also paid 15 grand for - lost 5 grand over 3 years. The MS has dropped 7 grand over only 2 years, which is what surprised me a bit? It's all relative though, my car has lost 17 grand in 2 years and it was 3 years old when I got it
The Pikes Peak edition stil come with the carbon parts fitted :smile: The current line of Ducati`s have carbon in a satin finish, so it may not be so easy to see on pictures. But it is lovely when you see it in real life!
Yes, the carbon on the new models is much better in my opinion..... Not liking the silver forks though:frown:
Each to their own I suppose. Personally I was not impressed with the satin look of the carbon. It looked cheap which clearly it isn't!
Its impossible to predict how anything will depreciate these days. That's why buying an expensive bike on the TriOptions PCP looks the best way forward as you know the worse case scenario when you sign up to the agreement.
Its interesting to hear you guys are drawing the same conclusions as I am. I have an early 2010 S Touring. All the improvements on the new 2013 model are great, but none of them are big enough to want me to splash an extra 6k or so to go for a new one. If however they had slapped a set of monobloc calipers on the front, and still offered a white touring, then I would have had a harder decision. The silver would be just about ok for me if it were gloss, but I just don't want matt paint. So right now I will stick the extra money in the bank, buy an aftermarket warranty (if I can find one), and hold on for the next model facelift.
Can you explain this comment, by vat do you just mean its worth about 20 percent less, cant help thinking this is a dealer comment to the guy who bought a bike and wanted shut a month later and then some folk have taken in as gospel. Surely the vat is irrelevant to most of us, its just 'what it costs to buy' and anything used however old just isnt as desirable so gets priced how desirable it is in the market. For example if a new one is in short supply a nearly new one is worth a bit less not a lot less.
Exactly. Anything is worth what someone else is prepared to pay. If you order a Morgan and wait for however many years it is you have to, you can probably drive it around for six months and sell it for more than you paid for it, because someone else doesn't want to join a lengthy queue. Or that used to be the case. But you get my point. The VAT has nothing to do with it.
When the dealer sells you a £15k bike, he receives £15k from you but has to pay £2.5k of that to the government in VAT. Yes ultimately a s/h bike is subject to market forces but you cannot get away from the fact that a £15k bike is only worth £12.5k.
Except there is VAT on used bikes too...unless you are doing a private sale. VAT has nothing to do with it. What is true is that (generally) items are worth less once you buy them. How much depends on the item and the demand for it....typically for vehicles there is depreciation as soon as you roll it off the forecourt, and the first year sees the biggest drop in value. After 3 years it tends to stabilise. There are always exceptions though. Whether a Multi drops £2.5k as soon as you ride off is debatable...maybe it does, maybe it doesn't.
