I just followed this setup section8superbike :Suspension Set up Guide: I raised it in the rear.... and have a sag rider sag on 30 mm in back and 32 mm front ( fourt line on top about 18, 5 mm ) I put 9 click on rebound and 9 clicks on compression. I feel... its very unstable in the front.... so I tried given a little more rebound... up to 12 clicks... in the top... it helped I think. I tried to put a zip tie on the fork leg... and drived a little hard.. and I noticed... that the sag goes down to 80mm!!!! is that ok.....??? Does it look normal... my settings?? How can I adjust... and tune my rebound and compression... so iam sure thats perfect??? The Bike... 916 with Showa shocks Thanx... Bjoern
Bjoern, if you were riding hard the suspension should be using most of it's travel - that's what it's there to do. As long as the suspension isn't bottoming out you should be fine. Is the front end unstable going into corners, out of corners or on the straights? Can you try to describe how it feels and when it happens.
im sorry but this is scary...........i would seek the advise of a professional to actually set the bike up for you locally.
the bloke has read a bit of info, clearly doesnt understand it, or has implemented it correctly. He might as well of thought of a number from 1 to 10 and turned some screws to that. I think its dangerous and he would be better getting a proper job done by someone who knows what they are doing, for both satisfaction and peace of mind.
Ok.... who says ... that iam only thinking if a number and dialed it in??? Please. .. leave my post. .. you dont help Its only in corners.. that the frontwheel seems a little. .. unstable. But it helped a lot increasing rebound. .. but how does it feel when it gets to much rebound?? And what about compression... do it need som clicks up then??
Setting suspension is a fine art. That's why race teams use factory technicians, and can still get it wrong. So to expect to get your's perfect yourself would be ambitious. andyb does have a good point about going to a specialist, unless the suspension has had a recent rebuild it may not even be working efficiently. I have a basic base setting for my bikes, but change it depending on the weather and the type of riding i'll be doing. In short you want it soft and compliant without bottoming out. Too hard and it will feel harsh and lacking in grip, too soft and it will weave around and be unstable. Best thing to do if not going a specialist is take a couple of tools, find a stretch of road you know and play with things until you're happy. I spend months tweeking a new bike to get it how i'm happy. On your own patients and practice is the key.
The section 8 set up is a good starting point for a lively, quick line changing race bike. Some people won't get on with it and your suspension components need to be in good condition prior to set up. I run a derivative of it on my race bike, setting changed to suit me and how I like the feel. Having the confidence to change settings is part of setting up the bike for you.
iv my 1098s set up quite soft. I set my sag then spent a lot of time finding what everything does ,now I feel its handling much better.
I bet you still get your mum to tie your shoelaces, don't you. Don't worry, he's often like that, the first to pipe up but the last to offer any useful advice. Absolutely, but by the same token there isn't enough adjustment in a normal roadbike suspension system, and in normal use, to get it so badly wrong as to make it dangerous. There's only one way to learn, and that's to have a go.
I wonder if you have too much compression damping, and that's not allowing the front fork to dive. Or it could be you've got the front set up quite hard and the rear quite soft. Try backing off the compression damping at the front or increasing the rear compression damping. But please, change one thing at a time, and write down what you've done for reference. You can always go back to the standard settings if you can't improve it. Just have a little patience, you'll get there in the end. And if you don't you can always take andyb's advice...
Whilst it must be nice to 'take it to a shop' whenever necessary, there are many of us on here who couldn't afford to run a Ducati if we hadn't managed to maintain it and learn about how to by ourselves Andy
Having the suspension set up by a professional is hardly taking it to the shop........what does colin at 100% charge £40? id hardly say that was high end ducati dealership costs......the OP clearly doesnt understand what he is doing and is only making matters worse only personified by internet advise.........what better than learning from someone like colin, there must be loads all over the world...proper expert advise!
I could not imagine buying a multi-adjustable bike, and not adjusting it to suit me, but I know plenty of people who do. Hey, they're happy and so am I. I'm sure calle3 is happy to twiddle with his suspension too, just as he has every right to, and while he's doing it he'll learn about how his bike works. What on earth is wrong with that?
I see no problem with calle3 trying to set up and understand how and what his suspension is doing, it is a bit of a black art to get your head round, i would have thought some helpful answers as opposed to putting down might help, be nice not to scare him off from asking other questions......IMHO of course :biggrin:
Hows the front tyre Calle3 ? they can go out of shape and cause issues similar to what your describing, had it on my 749, changed the tyre and all was good
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