Sos.....was It Really A Good Idea To Buy A Stolen Recovered Hypermotard Registered Abroad???

Discussion in 'Newbies Hangout' started by Charles Stanley, Sep 5, 2024.

  1. Hello to all you guys....

    As you'll gather, sympathise or otherwise------- I've done what any sane person advises not to do after too many Peroni's then buy a stolen recovered bike registered abroad....I'll take it on the chin for the time being (albeit it was 8 months ago and the threat of divorce is bringing me back to my senses).?

    This 2013 Hypermotard SP has been sitting in the man cave gathering cobwebs for the last 8 months and before halloween I'm determined to firstly get it running and secondly get it UK registered.

    Here's my dilemma(s)..Firstly, the ignition has been drilled as well as the fuel cap and seat (i've managed to get the seat off but not the petrol cap). The cheeky little blighters who stole it must have know a thing or two and left evidence of how they bridged the ignition loom which was useful. I attached attach a jump pack and to my surprise the dash lit up in a way you'd expect displaying everything as normal on the digital display, all the lights indicators and horn etc work, that's when my optimism ran dry....The bike itself is in amazing condition, practically like new with absolutely no damage which is the only mitigating reason why i bought it...

    All I need now is some advise on the next electrical steps, if i bought a new ignition barrel and keys will they need coding? do i need to take off the instrument binnacle & ECU to be coded to a new key etc etc......

    I'm completely blind to this and would really your help....
     
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  2. Welcome to the forum ,
    Look forward to seeing how you get on
     
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  3. @Charles Stanley the dash lights up but does the bike start?

    I’m fairly sure the antenna needs to speak with the chip in the key in order the ECU will complete the circuit to the fuel pump, injectors and coils.

    You could perhaps get a new ignition barrel & key (although it’s a right pita to remove the ignition barrel due to the security sheet bolts it’s been affixed with) and you may find someone such as Carmo Electronics in the Netherlands can help with the reprogramming of the ECU to accept the replacement key.
     
  4. Admittedly on a 1198, Ducati main dealer fitted a new ignition barrel ( and new key) for me, reasonably priced, no issues at all
     
  5. Welcome
     
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  6. Welcome into our mad house
     
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  8. Nice to meet you
    Thanks for sharing, the bikes not registered with the DVLA so no number plate etc, would a main dealer still take it in ?
     
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  9. It’s the dash not the ECU it needs to communicate with, my mistake (but then the dash tells the ECU it’s ok to start up)

    sadly it is a pita to remove the ignition barrel as it’s been mounted with security sheer bolts from which the heads sheer off once they’re tightened.
     
  10. Thank’s so this will probably work? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20458169...IosM4RrMmZ7r4Bs_D_zDcgWNX2hyyl5QaAudoEALw_wcB
     
  11. I dealt with quite a few of those shear bolt ignition fastenings back when I worked for British Leyland. The good news is, the torque setting for them to shear is usually a relatively low one, so they are not massively tight as a result.
    The bad news is, they need drilling out and are designed to not let a drill get much purchase. There is not much access either.

    The easiest way is to break the cast alloy body that the bolts are holding in place, leaving just the bare bolts behind, which will then come out with grips.
    You can try drilling a hole and moving them round with a punch ...BUT of course there is no room to get at 'em without stripping the bike (or car) down.
    On cars, we would get the columns out and work at the problem on the bench. On bikes, ya cant do that - it needs a strip to the frame.
    Quite WHY they still use these fking bolts is a mystery, the switches are easily breached as you now know and it's only ever legit people that have issues removing the old one.
     
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  12. Thanks for the advice it’s very much appreciated, I’ll give it a go next week
     
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  13. The immo on your bike is in the dash. The ECU is virgin.
     
  14. Thanks, looks like this will be my best option
     
  15. See my comment re my 1198S ignition barrel change, Ducati did it, programmed the keys, and at reasonable cost iirc
     
  16. But did you possess the code card for the bike?
     
  17. I would have I believe, but can't recall if I gave it to the dealer
     
  18. Got to be worth an ask ?
     
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