Right Gents, Recently I changed the spring on my 1199s from a 90nm to an 80nm, So I thought I would try FC18 FR15, RC 21 RR18, I am still being bounced around a lot. now there are 31 FC, FR, RC & RR settings, I was under the impression the higher the number the softer it became, but here is what I have discovered, based on above settings the rear was only moving 25mm between C-D and the front was only moving 70mm between A-B. Well tonight while I was out I thought what the hell lets lower the compression and rebound settings, move the cable ties all the way back to point A on front fork and D on rear, so this is what I ended up with tonight when I got home FC14 FR7 Front has traveled 100mm A-B RC16 RR6 Rear has traveled 35mm C-D. Am I missing something ? If the lower the number the stiffer it is supposed to be why am I getting more travel, I have tested my suspension along the same stretch of road so I can compare like for like.
Are you getting more travel or is it not recovering and chunking down at the next bump? Maybe you have gine in opposite directions with comp/rebound?
Deffo more travel, and I am not being bounced about so much it is coping with the bumps better, it has got me really perplexed.
I asked at my dealer which way the settings go, and everyone else I have spoken to seems to think exactly the same, the higher the number the softer it is. The ride is much improved but I am not satisfied with that I want/need to understand why when everything I have been told would suggest that it should be the other way.
On the multi I am (almost) sure the higher the no the harder the setting. Could easily be wrong tho...
The numbers mean either: a. The number of clicks out from fully in - the bigger the number, the less the damping or b. The number of clicks in from fully out - the bigger the number, the greater the damping The greater the compression damping, the "harder" the suspension will feel. The greater the rebound damping, the "smoother" the suspension will feel - up until the point when there is too much rebound damping (at which point, you no longer have sprung suspension ) The way to test which way round it all goes - set rebound in the middle somewhere and ride with compression set at the biggest number and then again with it set at the smallest number. If the suspension feels hard, with the compression damping set at "1" and soft with it set at "35", you can safely say that the lower the number, the greater the compression damping. However, if the suspension feels hard with compression damping set at "35", the reverse is true. Cool bears?
The Pani manual says by increasing the click setting you decrease the hydraulic damping, by decreasing the click setting you increase the hydraulic damping
Only alter one of compression or rebound at a time and try it out. A good tip i read somewhere was to wind one all the way in and ride the bike. Then wind it all the way out and ride the bike. Then you will be able to feel the maximum difference the adjusters can make. But again only do one of compression or rebound at a time. Not both. There was an interesting article in Bike magazine a month or two back where fitting a harder rear spring to a Z1000SX actually made the suspension feel softer. The science of it all is not straightforward.
Maybe because the spring does its proper job of holding up and lets the compression do its job of absorption. Reckon this is one of the issues peolpe like franksie have with skyhook: it needs to run at optimum sag or the computer over compensates to get into the right range
Maybe a difference between Ohlins and non Ohlins. For Ohlins - 1 = Hard/Stiff any increase on 1 is softer.................
it s not clear what you want from the suspension... its Always nr of clicks counting back from fully closed... (pins in) so the higher the number, the lower the damping... 80 nm rear must mean you don't weigh more than 70KG geared up... no data on front springs... lighten the one without the other and the bike will pogo or wallow in the back... changing geometrics and probably run wide... going low on and C and R is only good for riding over cobbles.... as it will again lead to pogoing... grtz
