What's It Worth

The first question is what kind of bike do you want; service history, age, condition, miles etc. Then you see what is available.

 

any reason for the 796 above the 1100??

 

Fair cop....the reason I asked is that the 796 and 1100 prices do cross over, so, why get the smaller when you can have the larger and it may be cheaper....

Prices: There doesn't seem to be any norm for the Hyper's (old style ones anyway), sorry, not much help after all that....

 

The 796 is a great choice. Although many people argue for the 'big bike' if you're not going on track I don't think you'll see much difference in the real world. It pulls like a train with a lovely light smooth clutch and if you do accidently change down a bit too aggressively the slipper clutch is great. It's not much less bhp than a 1100 but lots less torque (and less weight), this just means it's easier to get on the power while exiting bends (Imo). I can keep up with my mates all day long and nearly all of them have bigger bikes. Depends what kind of riding you want to do. Plus the insurance is expensive enough on a 796 let alone a 1100

 

Owned both hyper 1100 and 796, in my opinion the 796 is a much better bike. Good choice !

 

Plus about they average about 14 mpg more

 

I own the 1100 and having ridden the 796 I thought there was something wrong with it

Prices do seem random. Mine has turned 39,000 miles (2008 1100S) and still going strong, but a mate's needed a gearbox rebuild (full engine strip) at 25,000 miles after it started making terrible noises. Go for one that's been serviced frequently as that will prolong the life more than one that's been sat about rusting the belt pulley bearings and hardening the belts. Also consider things like the cost of a full service, new tyres, clutch plates, brake pads, carbon extras, etc as these will soon add up if needed.

 

Id say (just to add to this) that due to the fact that the prices cross over id still go for the 1100 - as the corny phrase says the throttle goes both ways....you can drive it as slow as you want - most of my 1100 hours are spent crawling through rush hour traffic....personally - go for the 1100 - get it dyno'd (that will sort out all the low speed problems that duc's stuffer from (just to confirm while mine was being done I was chatting to a bloke who had an 848 that was shit in low speed traffic....) then get an oberon master slave cylinder (this makes the clutch about 30% lighter) - also good for slow speed stuff - easy on your wrist as well.

I can quite happily weave through traffic on mine from lane to lane through cars etc etc without needing to put my feet down. If the 796's were 1k or more less then id say get one of those but it seems financially pointless to do so...

 

I guess it depends on so many different factors. A big plus point on the 796 is the slipper clutch, I guess thats going to cost around £500 plus fitting on an 1100. I also found the 796 much lighter and therefore "chuckable" than then 1100, one thing I do miss though was the suspension on my 1100 although again this was an S model so not like for like comparison.. One things for sure is the 796 forks are crap.

 

And agreed, any Ducati these days needs remapping to fix the low seeped running which is a bit sad really and around £500 on top of the purchase price..

 

slipper clutch is handy for high speed stuff but were talking a new starter here...so I would agree but in this case id say its not really warranted....but for the same price he gets more low end grunt...

 

The slipper clutch is not only handy for high speed it can save a new rider from locking the back wheel when the wrong gear gets selected accidently. I would probably like the 1100 torque but don't think it's really required (for me anyway I'll probably change a cog and drop the top end for better acceleration).
Suspension is crap on 796 but £60 for spring and the front was sorted and thanks to comfy and a height adjustment bar the back is sorted.
Really is a hard choice but for me the lighter clutch, 2 groups cheaper insurance, lighter bike (especially compared to the pre-evo) and better fuel economy won the day. Oh and no flapper valve rubbish either

 

You make an interesting point on the 796 but I guess it depends on the OP's plans and budget as all points you raised are solvable with cash over time.....

 

Sorry for the thread hijack. Just thought I'd give Cake the heads up that I've got a 2011 796 with super low miles which I'm considering selling as I've got a bambino on the way. If interested send me a message.