Nothing really. Wear has been very even front and rear. No siding either, if that’s the correct term. I ride the front a fair bit not sure if that helps the wear rate but haven’t had any cupping on any of the previous sets either.
Same I tend to push the front when confidence is up and I found they wore unevenly but yours aren’t showing any signs of that
@bradders what pressures do you run ? I usually run 38/42 and do a lot of 2 up riding. I also push the front and get both shouldering and scalloping. I also find the rear wears extensively. I'm stunned you guys are getting 5k+ miles, I can't even get 3k miles out of a rear, and if touring in France/Germany where the surface seems to be more agressive I struggle to get much beyond 2k miles. I'm wondering if I might get more mileage if I ran lower pressures...
I think you’ve answered part of your own question. You ride two up and that will certainly have a marked effect on tyre wear, especially if you’re covering long distances. I never ride two up but do tour, loaded, but never go above 38 on the rear (36 on front max) We all ride differently too. I usually ride with two different groups. Two mates, one very quick, one not so and me, cover the road at what you’d call a decent rate. However, me and the quicker guy use tyres similarly, higher corner speed more flowing, higher gear roll on to maintain speed. Slower guy, has a more pronounced, lower corner speed, heavy acceleration once upright style. Guess who uses their tyre quickest? It’s all in the wrist…..I think.!
36/38 normally. Been a while since I had the multi and PR5s but pretty sure 5k was about the outside limit I ever got.
I am on about 6000 miles on current set of 5s, another MM or so to the wear indicators, but I would normally change them by now. This set have not cupped etc and I ran them at 36/36 as the handbook suggested for a while. I normally did 36/42 but have now settled in 35/38-40. Everyone swears by these and they are surely offer better grip than my ability, but call me crazy, my favourite tyres in MTS were the Scorpions, very sticky , and My 1st set of 5s when they came out. Never had the same confidence in the following 2 sets so not sure if it’s me or the tyre has changed slightly.
More than likely a tweak in the compound make-up. My first set went over 7k miles. This set is nearly out already but still 5k. If I was to try I could probably eke out 5500 but I’d rather have the confidence of grip over the extra distance.
When I change to the new, I’ll take some pics and depth measurements and give the exact miles covered. I write everything I do in a bike diary. Really helps when you get to my age.!
I've never seen 5,000 miles out of back tyre on a MTS1200, 3,500 to 4,000 miles is typical if I don't change early before a long tour. I always change tyres as a pair so can't comment on the life of front tyres. i've gone through 24 tyres in 71k miles on 4 bikes - OEM Scorpions (4) over 71k miles - PilotRoad 3 (4) / Angel GT (1) / PilotRoad 4 (8 - one puncture) / Road 5 (6 inc. 1 GT rear) and more recently RoadTec 01SE (2). I never liked the OEM Scorpions and tended to stick with Michelin Pilot Road tyres as I had a load of confidence in them in the wet. When I changed from PR4s to R5s I though the turn in was a bit slower however the R5s didn't cup as much (both front and rear) and seemed to be better in the wet when nearly worn out. I changed to the RoadTec 01SE at the recommendation of a friend (@Twin4me ) and developed confidence in them after a couple of long wet rides. I planned to change back to Road5s for a tour up to Scotland in late autumn figuring that I might need the extra wet weather grip however Daemon Tweeks had a supply problem so went for another set of RoadTec 01SEs. As it turned out the the RoadTec 01SEs performed very well in the wet and it was wet - very wet on the way home. The tyre life of the RoadTec 01SEs appears to be about the same as the Road 5s. As to tyre pressures, I run 36/36 solo, 36/38 with luggage and 36/38 when two up with luggage. I use a tyre pressure monitoring system which provides a temperature display which I find useful to understand the pressure differences when the tyres are cold or hot. I have noticed that the RoadTec 01SEs run a fair bit cooler (about 10°C on the rear) than the Road 5s. I'm definitely a "point and squirt" rider which probably explains the the rear tyre wear. Over the last 3 tyres (Road 5 GT / 2 x RoadTec 01SE) the rears have developed a lot flatter profile when near the end of life and I can feel shoulders when riding. I put this down to a gearing change (42 tooth rear sprocket) which seems to encourage a more aggressive use of the throttle out of corners Back to the original question, regarding Michelin Road tyres causing tyre a high speed weave. I've experienced slight high speed weaves when two up/fully loaded or the rear tyre is on it's last legs. I've only once experienced really bad weaving and that was solo with recently fitted new tyres (Road 5 GT rear). The weave disappeared after I had undone the front wheel spindle nut and clamp bolts then re-torqued them using the correct procedure which involves bouncing the front suspension (see post in Front Wheel Assembly thread).
If the roads are properly wet you will potentially find great grip on a decent surface. Grip is at it worst in torrential rain that the tyres cannot clear, or roads not that wet.
Agreed. We did have quite a bit of torrential rain for an hour or so at a time over at least 3 or 4 days together with roads that were damp in patches, i.e. under trees. We even had temperatures down to low single figures at times - I saw 1°C air temp on one morning I think the Metzeler RoadTec 01SEs coped remarkable well and I'm not sure I would have any happier on Michelin Road 5s. In fact the only thing which made me happy was my heated jacket
If you wanted to see Steve’s tyre performance and some of the rain then have a look at the video I did of our trip! https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/threads/nc500-multistrada-trip.88386/
