999 bearing problem

Discussion in '749 / 999' started by xb12r, Aug 30, 2013.

  1. standard and 's' exhausts are the same.
    rear link pipe is 45mm outside diameter.

    smallest termignoni starts at 50mm
     
    #41 Phill, Sep 11, 2013
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2013
  2. Its looks like a shit :( after 4000mile ???? my god :mad:
     
  3. +1
    is that after a rebuild ??
     
  4. Going off topic....but pretty sure my Termi's are 45mm as I was measuring the link pipes this week. They were purchased separately so maybe that is the reason why. Will measure them.
     
  5. The 2005 onwards 999S also had ti rods from what I read and a few other bits, more or less the early 999R engine.
     
  6. very wrong indeed.
    different bore different stroke.
    different cases
    early 999s had Ti rods

    any 999s engine is not any version of the R
     
  7. Just saying what I read in a book by a bloke called Ian.
     
  8. if you said it was a book by a bloke called Troy.
    i would have believed it :)
     
    #48 Phill, Sep 12, 2013
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2013
  9. Late 999s engines had ti. rods.
     
  10. as I understand it, ive read it somewhere but cant find it right now.

    they all have ti rods

    it made reference latter to the latter S having heavier internals but the same Hp.

    it was deffo a cost cutting change to save production costs
     
    #50 Phill, Sep 13, 2013
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2013
  11. The later engines were equipped with better internals, to up the power.
     
  12. they werent im afraid
    they had a few very minor detail changes more or less to cut costs.
    a few oil lines were different.

    I will find what I read and post back :)

    of course if someone has a parts list you can cross reference the rods crank valves and piston part numbers
     
    #52 Phill, Sep 13, 2013
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2013
  13. Sorry to hear about one more 999 with bearing failures - I trashed my 999S main bearings + cracked the casing on the track end of July and we are now rebuilding the engine with a pair of used casings. The parts are insanely expensive and I'm not convinced that this will not happen again which is why I bought a Suzuki GSXR750 K7 trackbike as 'spare'.

    I have the same frustrations that you do as I had just learned to ride the 999 and got it properly setup etc. etc. and then the thing exploded in my face! I have now used the Suzi for a couple of months and I am reluctant to switch back again as it takes some time to get used to a new bike and get the lap times down.

    good luck with it

    Jim
     
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  14. Hi Jim,
    so you are in a same situation like me thats a shit , i just hope that the bearings are not specified and i can use there other bearings fro example KOYO or some kind of german bearing because as you sad god knows how long it will runs whitout any problem. Thats funny that after 12000km can happen this kind of problem , some people doing at one season more than 15000km and with this bike after every season i should split the fuckin whole engine for a rebuild?
    You changing also the other bearings or just the main?
     
  15. To put things slightly into perspective I know someone who purchased a brand new 1098, at the time, and did 40 trackdays with it many of which were open pit lane or abroad and had no problems at all. The key is to try and produce a decent well built and possibly blueprinted engine and then things should be much better.

    Ducati's are definitely more fragile than a lot of Ja bikes and I think that has to be expected if you are going to use one for a lot of trackdays.

    As a final point I have two Suzuki RGV250 track bikes and between them they have broken three gearboxes and totally destroyed a crank and a barrel. There are bikes about that are just as fragile when pushed hard.
     
  16. ahhh man RGV...
    I just loved those bikes so much. never ridden one but always wanted one back in the day...:)
     
  17. Yeah RGV250 lovely 2-stroke i never owned but had a Yamaha RD350 that one was also incredible :)
     
  18. We have tried to find replacement bearings and it is possible for the gearbox bearings but we could not find a cheaper replacements for the stupidly expensive main bearings. You even have to buy the bearing sleeves too as the main bearings are housed in sleeves inside the casings. In my (hopeless) case, bearings AND sleeves AND casings were toast!

    Pics:
    Ducati 999S Engine Restoration - a set on Flickr

    br

    Jim
     
  19. Jim , thanks for the nice pohotos i will do the same like you did i will make a pictures of each steps and i will upload as well. So you say that the bearing which near the front sprocket i can buy from other manufacturer. What do you think if the engine will be splitted then should i change the main bearings as well?
     
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