1200 15,000 Mile Service Cost - Really???

Discussion in 'Multistrada' started by Spinup, May 24, 2017.

  1. How long would it take Joe average ?
     
  2. The time I did mine is not really representative because I fitted Exige's heavier starter/battery cables, modified the sump plate to come off without the center stand having to be removed and general fiddling. I also unclipped, cleaned & waterproofed every electrical connection I could get my hands on - which took up a lot of time. The bike was off the road 4 days - don't forget to allow time for sourcing valve shims - you won't know what you need until it is stripped.
    Hope this helps.
    PS I could add here that I am not a qualified bike/Ducati mechanic - I just love finding out how things mechanical work & if not why not? In my humble opinion the Multi is a beautifully engineered bike, sure, it has its foibles but hey, that's character!
     
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  3. Hi,
    I recently had a 15000 mile/desmo service on my Dial and that's £930, seems to be the going rate.
     
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  4. My bike was bought on a PCP. I could do the work myself if I owned it outright but if I end up trading it for another PCP deal wouldn't the dealership expect it to be serviced by themselves ?
     
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  5. As far as the dealer is concerned - its your bike.

    But as far as Blackhorse are concerned - it needs to be serviced - never read the small print - whether it needs to be dealer serviced.

    If you have a 3 year PCP then you probably have an annual 5000 mile or 6000 mile limit - without paying excess miles - so unless you want to keep bike at the end and pay final lump sum - may be better swapping bike before reaching 15,000 (actually thought it was now 18,000 on new Multistrada) service.
     
  6. Mines a 2014, with a 5000 mile limit. I have actually been thinking of swapping early tho. Not sure if I could afford a brand new DVT , and have been looking at a KTM adventure 1290s . The dealer said they would offer £8200 for mine without seeing it. Tempted to do a demo ride
     
  7. If you have a PCP and plan to get rid anyway, go and try and get a deal early. I did mine, and simply offset the cost of a new set of tyres, brake pads and the service that was due and it was a grand. So the deal I was offered was worthwhile :upyeah:
     
  8. Tell you what. You do my valves and I'll do your belts... ;)

    I'm nowhere near brave enough to indulge in all that measuring and calculating but very happy to do belts, which just involves some counting of teeth and plucking of belts. Yes, it is a bit frustrating getting a consistent reading and it does make your finger a bit sore but it's well worth the saving in labour (and parts!) and you have the satisfaction of knowing that it's been done properly with new fuji nuts
     
  9. #29 Technomad, May 29, 2017
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  10. Just come back from Ducati Leeds having signed for a brand new DVT 1200s =)
     
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  11. Ducati Manchester group is offering 1K off list as a deposit or voucher for clothes / accessories

    So hope you got a good deal at Leeds.

    I took delivery of mine from DMC Stoke 2 weeks ago - and the email came out last week....

    But I had a reasonable discount / PX / Free Delivery and extended WTY with this one... - not sure it was quite a £1000 though...
     
  12. Ducati Manchester group is offering 1K off list as a deposit or voucher for clothes / accessories

    So hope you got a good deal at Leeds.

    I took delivery of mine from DMC Stoke 2 weeks ago - and the email came out last week....

    But I had a reasonable discount / PX / Free Delivery and extended WTY with this one... - not sure it was quite a £1000 though...
     
  13. Yes I got the £1000 off, a good offer on my bike, and top box thrown in too :)
     
  14. If your valves were done at 7.5k i doubt they will be out at 15k. I wasn't even going to check mine as several independents told me that they rarely change if set properly at 7.5k during road use. They were not far off, only 1 closer was a bit wider than the others but still within tolerances. It was more a peace of mind thing for me.

    I might do my own belts if i can find the right cam locking tool just so i am confident of not losing the cam timing. I want one that locks the cams and not the sprockets.

    I was fully prepared to change shims if i had too. It's not hard to see what's involved once you realise how it all works in there. If you do it at TDC then the valves can't drop far as they hit the piston. 70% of the labour time is just getting to them and putting everything back. I might even fit EMS shims next check as they have a 12k service interval.
     
  15. The only tool I bought specially was a crankshaft turning tool to allow me to accurately (enough) turn the engine 90*. The CycleWorks video says you don't need a locking tool and it's true, you don't. I managed perfectly well without one. You can see when the cams are in the right place, the top of the T faces the cylinder head.
     
  16. I was thinking the same myself and as mine is on 26000 already and have 4000 to the next major service i will have a look as i am about a grand short on my current PCP but that was on "winter" trade in prices and summer will be higher ;)
     
  17. They offered the rest of my PCP value, plus reduced the monthly charge for a new one ( £470 over the 3yrs) plus the current £1000 Ducati are offering, plus threw in a top box :)
     
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  18. Don't just assume the 15k is a valve inspect and new belts. It's a much bigger job.... Valve inspect is a small part of it. We're in there checking within a hour or so and it's done back up with new belts in around three most of the time.
    The most overlooked is the rear hub service. It should be stripped, cleaned and greased up as well as the bearings. In a perfect world it's a hours job. Nothings ever perfect though. The hub in the pictures is todays task... it's took a good hour and a half to get the bastard out and that's pretty normal.
    Add in the parts, belts, plugs, oil and filter, air filter, usually coolant, brake fluids etc. Time to fit them, rebuild the bike and do the chassis, electrics and diagnostics and the standard hours of 6.6 don't even come close. I allow a day and a half for the job and that's tight.
    £800 is about the going rate, depending upon the labour rate. £150 of that will go to the VAT man. £300 or so on parts. It is a lot of money, but it's about the most hard earned we get. I'd take 4 oil services any day for around the same return.
    Don't get me wrong. I'm all for owners looking after their bikes. I'm happy to help them, but if you put the bike into a service centre then understand it's a lot of work, especially if done properly.

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  19. The official service schedule is part of the problem for me. The official dealer I used near me are too rigid as my hub/head bearings etc get re greased yearly and always have. I do my own fork oil or seals etc.

    I had a dispute with the dealer when I last allowed them to touch my bike as I said "don't do the fork oil as I have done it and to my own spec air gap and oil so please leave it alone". The service manager refused to stamp my service book as they didn't service the forks which are in the official schedule. The bike wasn't in warranty so I didn't get it at all and still don't.

    When I asked about a 15k service I get the same thing. We check it whether you have done it or not or no stamp. I can walk into an independent and no problem, do what I ask them to do and stamp my book no problem.

    I don't know if that's common practice and there is some legality to it but it's a real pain for those that do much of the work themselves.
     
  20. No dealer would stamp a service book if they hadn't checked everything needed during whichever service is required. They would be admitting that they were culpable if you then had any problems with the forks etc..surely ?
     
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