1260 Full Akrapovic

Discussion in 'Multistrada' started by James85, Aug 7, 2018.

  1. In a lot of cases, you can get rid of the popping by blocking off or eliminating the AIS system (Air Injection System) as it introduces fresh air into the exhaust to promote burning unburnt fuel. Not sure how the Multi handles AIS though. It used to be hoses and a solenoid but now with Euro 4, my Thruxton R handles that through the ECU and you can't eliminate it without a reflash (which nobody has).
     
  2. I fitted an AIS kit (Blanking plates and resistor plug-n-play) to my 17 1200 DVT. It caused very poor idling and constant stalling as soon as It was fitted. Kit came from Greece.

    Soon as I removed it and returned things to standard, it was back to sweet as a nut!

    Soon as funds allow, a de-cat slip on and re-map will be on the cards.
     
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  3. DVT can’t be mapped.
     
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  4. Then decat it is.!

    You’ve saved me ££££..’s
     
  5. Make sure you have baffles in the slip on :scream:
     
  6. I’m hoping to get my mate to make me one...

    I can say no more.!.

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  7. In inconel I trust ;)
     
  8. :eek:...........;)
     
  9. Hi

    Have fitted full Akrapovic system inc. db killer to 2019 1260S
    Runs great.
    Only problem is high idle when starting - very loud but once idle drops it doesn’t seem to be any louder than stock system.
    Anyone know how to either stop the higher idle or quieten it down until warmed up.
     
  10. Of course. They're not going to tell you that you need to spend another £350~£400 on a tune or a fuel controller to add power. They want to sell plumbing!
    Without a dyno tune re-map, your system detracts power, guaranteed. You don't have to believe me. In fact, please don't and put it on a dyno.
    You'll realize that , at a minimum, you may want to install a Rapidbike fuel controller.
    Even the Termi up-map is a trade-off sacrificing top-end HP and Torque for mid-range enhancement.

    https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/threads/dyno-comparison-standard-v-termi-exhaust.37412/
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    #30 DarR, Feb 18, 2020
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  11. The other inconvenient truth is that the power enhancement comes predominately from the fuel re-map not from the pipe.
    A full titanium system from Akrapovic only adds 1.2 HP.....and that's under optimal marketing conditions. YMWV.
    Here's the text:
    Optional titanium headers for the best aftermarket performance increase
    The new exhaust delivers 1.2 extra horsepower at 8,650 rpm, and 1.2 extra Nm (0.9 lb-ft) at 6,900 revs.
    akrapovic-revolutionary-exhaust-now-available-in-titanium-for-the-ducati-multistrada-1200_6.jpg
    https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...i-multistrada-1200-photo-gallery-101686.html#


    Both my 18 1260 Multi and my pal's 17 Multi 1200 were put on the same dyno, same tech, just a couple of hours apart.
    Both bikes are stock except his 1200 has a Rapibike unit.

    As a reference, the stock bikes were dyno'd by Moto Magazines as followed (See charts):
    1260 DVT @ 140.45 HP
    1200 DVT @ 133.70 HP which is pretty much inline with Akra's stock number of 135.5 HP shown in the table above.
    1260 DVT Dyno Cycle World.png 1200 DVT Dyno.png
    Our personal dyno results were as follows:
    My 1260 came in as expected @ 141.04 HP.
    His 1200 came in @ 141.91 HP, a huge HP increase solely because of the Rapidebike's fuel map.
    Multistrada 1260 PP.png MTS DVT 1200 RB.png

    In closing.
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    #31 DarR, Feb 18, 2020
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  12. Thank you DarR, very helpful and informative.

    I agree that re-mapping will give improvement and will probably go Rapid-Bike route.

    Do you think this will affect (positively) the high idle and noise.

    Cheers
     
  13. I have a full Mivv system fitted (headers + end can) and I haven't had mine mapped. It doesn't feel that different to the stock set up in my opinion. Doesn't feel any more choppy or more powerful.

    I believe an up map of some description would make it better, but I'm confident that my bike self adjusts to make it OK without.

    Also have the exhaust valve eliminator fitted (takes around 5 minutes, very easy) and throttle spacer to reduce the ambiguity in the throttle response (helps make it feel less choppy)

    As previously stated, it is really quite loud on cold starts until it warms up, then it quietens down

    If someone manages a proper tune for the 1260, I'd consider it, but I don't think it's necessary

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  14. Looks like your outside Infinity's in Northcamp ;)
     
  15. Haha well spotted!
     
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  16. I've been told the high RPM cold start has to do with synchronizing & calibrating the DVT system.
     
  17. Hi everyone- I just want to give everyone my data on this.

    I have a 2019 MTS 1260 pikes peak. I put it on a Dyno before and after upgrading to the full Ackrapovic


    Stock -
    peak HP - just under 139 - I am running softer tires (Perrelli Corasa 2) so I probably lost a horse or 2 from that - stock should be 142.
    Peak torque- 85
    Air fuel - fluctuates based on RPM but average was about 12.2


    After mod Dyno

    peak HP - 145
    Peak torque- 89.53
    Air fuel - hardly moved and follow same curve as stock - average is 12.5


    So gains -
    Near 5.5 HP
    Just under 6 foot pounds
    Air fuel was fine post mod - no need for aftermarket fuel mapping or systems,
    At least on my bike.
     
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  18. Here is the Dyno chart. I had the 2017 MTS 1200s and put on the full Termi with upmap. I did not Dyno before and after with the Termi but I honestly felt no gains with that exhaust. This one I can feel and the nice thing is the gains are not just at peak but through most of the RPM range. I feel like I made a good choice on this exhaust.

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