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1st Trackday Questions

Discussion in 'Trackdays & Rider Skills' started by Not Carl Fogarty, Nov 2, 2016.

  1. Yep as above, you should understand vehicle dynamics and feedback already as well as the lines(ish).

    Should give you an advantage
     
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  2. 16Amp to 13A socket adapter/fly lead :upyeah:
     
  3. That's the badger...:pompus:
     
  4. "It's the leaning it over and getting on the power I need to sort out".
    Those two problems can be resolved by a visit to California Superbike School. It is expensive, but will change your riding skill level for ever. By level 3 you will be going significantly quicker, with confidence, line options, relaxed and a feeling totally in control with an amazing awareness of what is happening underneath you.
     
  5. As Paul says, CSS is decent. It's very generic, and you might find it frustrating at first as it's definitely a school day, and not the track day people expect, but if you stick with it, it all makes sense
    As with any tuition in any sport, you need to pick and chose from it what works for you.
    The main difference with CSS compared to many of the 1:1 coaching available , it comes at you in manageable chunks, and as long as you get plenty of track time between the modules, you get a good chance to try everything you've learnt in one level, before you move onto the next.
    I did levels 1-4 around a month apart, and had 4 or 5 track days between each one. It worked for me, but I'm conscious that it might not work for everyone
     
  6. It is something that's on the cards.. I will do 1 track day first to get some confidence, then do the schooling.
    I might not like it...

    Whats the cost associated (PM) me if you don't mind, if it's a sensitive topic? Do they rent bikes in the cost too?
     
  7. As with Jolley, being a new rider this will have been a big benefit, wheres if you have bene riding 30 years the transition is far more difficult IMHO
     
  8. It's about £400 per level from memory, although you get a discount if you book all 4. You can rent bikes through them, but I used my own. It's not cheap to rent through, and I think it's about £250/day for a 959 and £350/day for a 1299.
    California Superbike School UK: Schedule and Bookings
     
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  9. I am 30 years plus of riding/racing and found day one a real struggle, looking like I had bicycle trainer wheels attached. The on site photos were embarrassing. However I reckon in the 200 miles of school track-time over three days I learnt more than in thirty plus years. The third days photos prove it.
     
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  10. I just had the book, watched the vid, and took 12 months of looking like a twat on my 848 on the road to get it ;)

    BTW its ruined (well, maybe affected a bit..) my 'slow' road riding... I am always apex hunting and late turning which doesn't always make for a smooth ride or for hanging wide in turns to open up the road.
     
  11. Very funny, I know exactly what you mean. I now have to seriously 'dial down' my road riding as the acquired confidence and speed causes havoc with other road users.
     
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  12. Not as much the speed, more the lines, where a good road rider rides 'around' the corner, a good track rider cuts straight thru it! Not great on a multi with tall seat and huge mirrors against oncoming traffic :Facepalm::Banghead: LOL
     
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  13. As soon as I get my road bike out, I have to try and turn off my track riding head completely
     
  14. Was there ever a thread about race versus road shift on track days?
     
  15. That's a debate that would go on forever
     
  16. Just my 2p worth....

    I would do CSS first. Then practice what CSS taught you.... if you go track first, you'll re-learn your old habits, then maybe have to unlearn in CSS... CSS will be much easier and more beneficial to do straight off a long break.

    I would consider Bedford. Believe it or not, it has more runoff that Silversone (you can go straight in at a number of bends at Bedford, whereas a lot of silverstone runoff is through/after the bend). It is also cheaper, less busy, and is a more interesting track to learn to corner (a lot of Silverstone is very high speed, and you only get to do about 8 laps per session on the GP). I took 5 years off and wanted to start on a track I new, but friends had already booked Bedford. So a few weeks after picking up my 959 I was fumbling around Bedford. It only took a couple of laps to learn, and I really appreciated the comfort of the available width and runoff.

    As for tyres, most have covered this. Upright straight line hard acceleration and braking on the first few straights, then gradually build speed.
     
  17. I run race on track and road on road. Seems to work somehow, although its only because I can't really turn the multi lever over. Much prefer race format
     
  18. My tame racer friend explained getting your toe under the road pattern to change up when racing is very difficult so the kick down to change up race pattern is the answer. It makes sense so I am going to follow his advice. He also recommended the right side lever guard.
     
  19. I found that if I miss a gear it is clicking up. Personally I'd rather miss a gear accelerating than braking because the consequences are smaller (ask Jonathan Rea!), so I leave it in road for that reason. The reality is that having to change up a gear when I am so far over in a left bend that I can't get my toe under the lever is such a rare event that I never felt the need to change (that is the only advantage I can see to race).
     
  20. Yes exactly, just easier in the hard over left turns.
     
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