UPDATE!! after removing them completely I was bored after swapping a few more powder coated bits on and ended up fitting a single piece each side! think the full rim done looked too much, a single piece im liking for now but will probably end up taking them off again lol just want a tail tidy for the bike now but really don't want to spend over £200 especially as im about to put another £300 on a pair of pirelli angel gt tyres. more and more money