They already have https://www.evelknieveltoys.com/col...el-stunt-cycle-black-2?variant=41849487851702 My mate had one - I had the dragster - it never worked like it did in the commercial!
I totally agree with this!! To RC cars, you can add Vintage BMX (got myself a pair of Raleigh Burners to refurb, last year), Donjons & Dragons original rules sets (yeah, I collect these too ), well and pretty much everything we used to fantasy about when we were kids. PS: I had the Kyosho Raider and my brother had a track oriented Jaguar race car from Tamiya. We were very fortunate as these were not cheap! I remember it was all about how good you could paint and decorate your plexi, getting a better motor, oil dampers, electronic variators and better battery packs. Oh man!!
I saw vintage BMX had become a thing too - My cousin had a Raleigh Burner! It’s only now I realise how fortunate I was as a child. My parents were always very generous - my Dad in particular takes great pleasure in giving gifts. Looking at the comments on the vintage RC YouTube channels I discovered during lockdown boredom there’s a whole bunch of people saying things like ‘I really wanted one of those but they were too expensive’ Between my friends and I we had pretty much every car out there over the course of the 80’s. Christmas was building my latest RC car on the dining room table for many years in a row! My parents went to Japan in 1986 on a business jolly organised by Toyota and brought me back a Tamiya Supershot as a surprise. I was the happiest 12 year old ever! It hadn’t been released in the UK yet so I had the first one in the country - I didn’t even know it existed as it had only been released in Japan the same month. Went to a big RC car race meet with it and the UK importers RiKo had a stand with a cutaway demo model of the Supershot in pride of place! And along comes this 12 year old carrying a fully working one dangling at his side by the front bumper! I still remember the confused look of recognition on the the guy’s face as his brain processed what he was seeing! I have managed to resist the urge to order one of the rerelease kits so I can give it to myself on Christmas day to build!
Interesting about investment aspects. Bought mine cos I wanted one, happy to own it and look at it, but not keen on riding it. Had it 12 years or so, but the cost of servicing it over that period (cos I'm mechanically useless) means not "made" much on it.
I just had my 748R track bike serviced after three days at Jerez. Probably covered two hundred miles on track since last service and outing. Oil/filter , change cam belts , clean /gap plugs, clean air filters , drop coolant re-seal bottom pipe , remove clutch check , stack height , clean/check callipers , front pads, rear pads, remove rear sprocket carrier add washers + new spring washers + loctite, change brake & clutch fluid , new battery band , charge battery , check wheel bearings , check all engine casing bolts , rearset bolts, clip-ons , thorough nut & bolt check & full bike clean. £600. That's a lot of checks and replacing anything that looks worn and probably way more so than a road bike for the mileage.
What’s a little strange about this is that a track bike, even when serviced this frequently, will always be considered as a more “abused” bike, when it may actually be better taken care of, from a mechanical standpoint, than a living-room queen.
Threads like this depress me somewhat. These machines were built to ride and ride hard. When they go bang, rebuild them. You can see the way ducati are going now with limited edition models really intended for 'investors'. Which is a shame.
Back to the OP, i remember seeing base 916 bip's only 2 or 3 years ago on sale for £5 >6K, now it looks like you need to part with £7 >8K for the same bikes, you'd be hard pushed to find a decent one under those prices at the mo IMO...especially if your looking to buy one from Sheffield!
It’s definitely gone from being able to consider picking one up cheaply just because you fancy trying a motorcycling icon - to even basic models being more than just something you might purchase on a whim. However on the plus side the increase in value means the remaining ones are getting looked after better and often restored. You only have to look at how many threads on here cover bikes that have been neglected and are now in the hands of people who really care for them. I’m sure when they were at their lowest price many were purchased by folks without too much mechanical sympathy.
Exactly right. I have another engine refresh underway where all moving parts are checked, measured and replaced to ensure maximum power delivery when re-assembled and dyno tested. All work logged, photographed and catalogued. You don't get that if your garage queen only does thirty miles a year to the MOT and back.
I wouldn't want you sitting in as a juror on a jury murder case without listening to the evidence based on that last comment you made.
Eh? That comment was based on what I have seen on the forum. While reading up on values I found this article: https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesoci...uying-advice/ducati-916-modern-classic-review There’s a weird logic working here. It’s the same one that always drives classic prices. Bike gets old, bike gets cheap and cheap bike gets bought as a hack. In the old days that was the point where they were turned into choppers, streetfighters or café racers, but recently you can chuck in ‘cheap-trackday-hack’ or club racer into that list. Fifteen years ago cheap 916s were all over UK trackdays being thrashed, crashed, kicked straight (the beauty of a trellis frame) and rebuilt. By 2010 if you wanted to buy a decent original Ducati 916 you’d have to look hard and pay good money. So prices for those good ones started going up. So I don’t think that statement is without merit, nor is it a blanket statement covering all owners and all bikes.
Many of the self-pronounced internet experts base their price reports/findings exclusively on internet sourced data alone. These definitely provide the best virtual guide for a seller’s price aspiration (before the seller is hit hard by the reality of the actual market). As correctly hinted above, many Ducati’s have found themselves relisted – albeit intermittently – for years, misleading both the self-pronounced experts and the buyers that there is an increased demand in the market, as well as an abundance of buyers willing to go at any financial lengths to acquire a Tamburini bike.
Auctions, where the rubber hits the road very publicly and always way cheaper than the "sticker price" valuations.
True, but their hit rate of selling is far higher and publicly disclosed, rather than the constant re-advertising on eBay and no disclosure of traded price by the dealer and collector community.
