Thanks to all for comments suggestion etc, will probably give the standard showa 1098 forks a go and see what happens
@cassclaye I've got a very low mileage really good condition set of 848 evo showa forks that will be for sale from tomorrow. PM me if you are interested.
mr R,,,i do not wish to belittle your thread in any way mate, and I fully accept your theory re lap times,, but I would love a nice big set of Ohlins and big radial brakes calips even tho I will ( I hope ) never venture near a race track,,, and again , even tho I don't intend ( OMG ) to be " pushing it " I cant help thinking that they will be of some advantage on the road,, and hey,, they do look the dogs danglies !! :Shamefullyembarrased:
Beats me why people cant just stick to the thread and answer the question . Fuck all to do with lap times , racing , scrutineers , race series or anything else brought in on cassclayes thread he only wanted to know if and how to fit radial forks to his 749 . Seems like hes managed on his own and good on him. Its his bike and he'l do as he wants just a shame he didnt get a little more help.
Well said... All i wanted was some advice on if it could be done and the best options. For those that gave advice thanks, and those that didn't and just criticised then cheers anyway but i have my own reasons for trying this.
Don't they offer simply a better balance of feel and bite. Bit like jumping from cast to billet calipers. Most wont really feel the difference, doesnt mean there isnt The thread drift on race spec etc seems far better than the usual drift shot that happens on here, at least it was bike related discussion and was linked to another contributor, with a 749, considering doing the same. Better than tits, arse, bummer and other cheap cliquey 35 back-to-back posts
ok I am a fashion whore,, but I recon they will go luuverly with the new wavey discs when I fit them !!
Thoight I'd given one, a sensible suggestion that is But they do look better than old P4s, esp the nickel ones. Tell me this aint bike porn...
I've only ever read one convincing argument for radial over the traditional form and I actually read it here in this thread - the ability to accommodate different sized brake disks for different conditions. For myself, I prefer the look of the older style over the newer design. As for feel, bite, fade issues, I think those are issues that are theoretically independent of how you actually mount the callipers. Surely fluid, pad material, construction (and condition) of the hoses/callipers and the action of the master cylinder are all much more important than how it's all mounted. Sure, there are differences in how forces are transmitted from the calliper to the forks during braking but I cannot see how a human being would be able to tell the difference. TL;DR: I actually prefer the look of the older style callipers. Assuming equal quality of construction, I fail to see how it can make a difference on a road or on a track. I wonder whether a double-blind side-by-side comparison could be carried out by top-echelon racers to prove there is a difference.
If thats the case, and mortal cant tell the difference, why does a swicth from cast to monoblock on a 848/1098 get such rave reviews? Also between brands, many junk Gixer ones in favour of other Jap makes. Same pistons, same brake pads, yet less fade and more bite, so I hear. Ok not comparing old school to radial but isnt the principle the same? Certainly it makes switching between disc sizes mega simple, I do on my track bike. Anyone with close limks to factory designers able to anwswer why they all switched 10 or so years ago?
I'm not certain - but the difference between cast and monobloc, and between differing brands, is surely a matter of quality of construction and small differences in design - not a radically different approach to design? I disagree that it's all the same principle, this thread is currently addressing the issue of whether radial design represent "the emperor's new clothes". Forgive my ignorance, though, it's a learning curve for me. I welcome a correction of my thinking. If I had to guess, for top flight race teams, it is simply a matter of the convenience of being able to easily change disk sizes without having to worry about different forks/fork mounting points, etc - which saves money. The industry followed this direction because the public would have demanded "the same as those guys in MotoGP". Like it always does
Very likley it was for race teams, like most developments seem to be, or certainly used ther then became regular attire for every king. A short simple article which makes sense to me: forces and alignment mean less twist and more feel What are radial brakes and why do modern sportbikes have them? - Common Tread - RevZilla
Some people, I don't know. The idea that people have drifted away from the title of of the thread - which I guess is aimed at me - is just stupid - espically as it was totally relevant. I particularly enjoyed that the person moaning moved the thread away even more, onto moaning! Oh the irony of it all! I was discussing doing the same and was getting good advise before spending my hard earned cash. What is possibly wrong with that? Discussing the series was also relevant as it may or not have been allowed. This is a Ducati forum. The idea is people can't discuss things.
I really don't like all this back biting but my points were totally relevant. I enjoy the forum but If you are going to erect a glass house to live in, I would suggest you get your grammar and spelling sorted first before you slate mine chap. If your langague skills are so very perfect why does your vocabulary run out at the end of the thread? Is this going off thread?
