No. The model info comes from the ECU. Eg the ECU sends SBK 848 EVO to the dash and that is what's displayed.
Ok, no problem. My second question you may not be able to answer. The internet tells me that there is a voltage difference between the original clocks and 848 clocks. Is this voltage controlled by the loom or by the ECU? So by fitting a 1098 loom the voltage difference will disappear? Thanks for you help
Not aware of a voltage difference. One of the Desmodue racers runs an 848 dash on a M620. If there is a difference the dash must control it.
Sorry Attila, it was on eBay. I didn't want to say until after the auction. I got it for £70 including postage in the end.
No worries bud, you got yourself a bargain there, most of the ones I have seen have gone for 3-4 times that!
So My brain hurts from too much thinking and I'm sure I'm the only person who actually cares about this... but.... I've been going through the wiring diagrams for both the 1098 and 749. I've compared the expected inputs/outputs from the standard 749 dash and the standard 1098 dash and compiled a table so should someone want to modify their existing connector block on their 749/999 to suit an 848/1098 dash they can do so. Not sure what would be needed for a 1198 dash with DTC but I reckon, depending on extra required sensors, it could be possible. An 848 dash is expecting to receive or send signals along 3 connections to an Exup motor, the finish line sensor, a mode switch and an extra connection to the air temp sensor over and above the signals a 749 can provide. Although that last one could be just an earth, I'm not a sparky so I don't know. If the dash will work without the Exup motor feed and with a bolt on handlebar switch as a mode switch it could be quite easy. According to the 1098 loom on a 749 the only mods required are to run the connection to the Lambda sensor from pin 11 to Fan 1 instead and the feed from body pin 38 to the side stand switch instead and the 749 ecu should be able to hit every thing it expects to. There will be several connections which go no where on the 1098 loom, namely the connections to the stepper motor and the EXUP valve. I think most of the others have somewhere to go. Using a 1098 loom should mean that you can ignore the pin differences between the 749 and 848 dashes. The feeds from the ECU should be routed to the correct dash pin from the correct sensor. I am going to assume that the outputs from the various sensors are the same signal strength and type, and that the dash will be able to read the feeds. If it doesn't work like that then maybe it will be possible to retro-fit 1098 sensors in to the 749 engine. I don't know, and until it doesn't work and I have no choice, I'm not going to try. Soooooooo... after all the waffling... I think if you virgin a IAW 5AM2 749 ECU and disable the immobiliser stuff on the 848 dash... it could work quite easily. We shall see. I might not have any results on this for quite a while so if any one else tries this in the mean time please let me know if it works. I forgot to mention that the diagram shows the pin number on the dash or ECU and where it goes to.
What does the finish line sensor look like? I didn't know they had those fitted. I am just bunging in a whole set up from an 848 evo corse se bike. Don't forget the rear wheel sensors pick up 4 pips on the 1098.
I can't find a picture in the workshop manual or in the parts list. In regards to the speed pick up, you're right that the 1098 uses 4 bolts on the rear disc and the 749 uses 5. A possible solution to this could be to use titanium bolts to fit the rear disc and provide an alternative ferrous pick up at 90 degree spacings. It might just be a case of finding the right design rear disc which provides a surface to bond some steel heads to.
I'm looking at making a timing ring that will bolt the disc to the wheel with 5 ti bolts and have 4 ferrous pips equally spaced. I have a standard 999 disc and a Braking wavy jobby, neither has the meat on it to set 4 90 deg pins on, hence having to make a disc. The PCD is 125mm by the way.
No, No serious damage visible. Came with shroud thing attached and had a few scratches. I didn't want to buy a mint one if it doesn't work. One concern I have is that the ECU and the dash both take a reading from the pick up sensor. Can either the ECU or the dash be re-configured to expect 4/5 pulses? If the ECU is expecting 5 but the dash is expecting 4, could be a problem. This one
Are you having a bash at this the final_edition? How far have you progressed? Are you working on a 999 with 1098 loom and dash?
I don't think they're worth a whole lot on their own as they need the key or your key coded to the dash. Could be wrong/confused though, it's my birthday soon and I'm very old..:frown:
You're right, but I can get the dash re-set to factory and code it to the key on my 749 so it matches the keys and red key I already have. I'm looking at what to do here and I'm waiting to hear back from the guy chrisw recommended. I think he is abroad now as I called him and had a different dialling tone.
I have got a 999s engine, t/b's and swingarm in a monster S4. Plus have the full 848 evo corse dash, loom, dtc box, wheel sensors, ecu, t/b's and front discs (for front speed pick-ups) The rear sensor has to see 4 equal spaced readings. I think I worked it out to 88.4mm hole to hole (not round the circumference) on a 125 pcd. As long as the sensor sees the 4 pips and not the 5 bolts it should be fine. It doesn't matter what the pcd of the pips are, as long as they are equally spaced. On the 848/1098 they are on a larger pcd. They need to be on a smaller pcd to align with the rear sensor. The rub is either to use the 999 or 848 t/b's. You can buy plugs from BSD </title> <meta name="robots" content="index,follow" /> <meta name="GOOGLEBOT" content="INDEX, FOLLOW" /> <script type="text/javascript" src="//ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.4.2/jquery.min.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="//a to make a patch lead from the 848 loom to include inj and tps to connect to the 999 airbox multi plug. Having a quick look in the garage, I think it is possible to mount the icv to the 999 t/b's and use the conector/plug on the 1098 loom.
