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848 virgin

Discussion in '848 / 1098 / 1198' started by Blanco, Mar 13, 2013.

  1. Been there, done that. It's really no different to my old crossplane crank R1.
     
  2. Well, all i can say is if i gave my gsxr1000 a big handful and then quickly shut the throttle it would not engine brake as much as the 1098 does. I assume its down to having x2 549cc pistons as opposed to x4 249cc pistons. Maybe someone more technical could explain.
     
  3. Sorry timberwolf :wink:

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  4. Aha I see.

    It does the same as my standard quick shift :wink:
     
  5. So is an evo corse SE quickshifter conventional or strain gauge cos I'm hoping its gonna last more than a year
     
  6. Like I said in my original post "if you are happy with what you have......" :upyeah:
     
  7. Conventional, the warranty is 2 years so you'll be fine :biggrin:
     
  8. Well I've not been convinced to be unhappy so far :smile:
     
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  9. :cool:
     
  10. In the same way a showa rear shock does the same as your ohlins.
     
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  11. ok - I have the HM unit - not a clue what its supposed to do lol
    How am i supposed to use it? Just do clutchless upshifts?
     
  12. Keep throttle pinned, no roll off, just 'kick it up'

    Or so I'm told
     
  13. Correct :smile:
     
  14. On a very long straight road lol ( or track )
     
  15. Incorrect. You can do it on roundabouts too. :smile:
     
  16. Honestly given the length of first on my 1198 I seriously think I would end up on the moon if I did that lol
    Will give it a whirl on a long straight road first and maybe test the roundabouts later !
    Is it actually assisting the clutchless upshift (which I do anyway) or is it just cutting the throttle to allow no roll off?
     
  17. it assists clutchless upshifts. No blipping of the throttle is necessary. You just keep the revs constant and flick the lever up, and hey presto.

    Piece of piss. :upyeah:
     
  18. Just picked up my evo corse SE chuffed to bits with it can't wait to get it run in. I don't think it has got a lot of engine braking but I haven't been over 6000rpm the quickshifter is awesome but it takes some getting used to I shifted up a couple of times when I didn't want to the lever is so sensitive, can't wait to use it flat out apparently it works even better at high revs :)
     
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  19. The Baron is the Alan Partridge of motorcycling. Extremely funny.
     
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