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Advice on standing 748S

Discussion in '748 / 916 / 996 / 998' started by Rowdey, Nov 19, 2013.

  1. +1 :upyeah: Spend the money and get I right and registered by the dealer, top price £3.5 K you might get more if you lucky. But most Ducati owners do/have the work done for there own satisfaction and the MONEY hardly comes into the end result. That's my finding anyway.
     
  2. So I think we all pretty much agree that around £2000 is your top price really, you will need to put £1000-1500 into it, silly things like £200 for a pair of tyres, new clutch and brake fluid, brake pads that may have broken down in composition.
     
  3. I could put that back on the road for around £200. Belts oil brake fluid and coolant. Oh and £20 for a tank of fuel with a set of scrubs thrown on.
     
  4. where o where do you get your fuel Cranker? - I really need to know :)
     
  5. Normally from the jerry can in the corner of the garage! It been ages since I put a full tank in anything, £20 should be enough to not be on reserve!
     
  6. All depends on if the buyer can do the work themselves or is reliant upon forking out £100 an hour for Ducati to undo some fairing fastners.

    I just did an overhaul on my 996 and from Ducati (can get cheaper elsewhere) I paid £220 for belts, oil, oil filter, fuel filter, spark plugs, all gaskets / washers etc. and i swapped them out myself. Granted i know which end of a spanner to hold, but it was the first time for me doing that on a 996 and I had no problem. On top of that I changed the brake fluid, (Dot4 from halfords), brake pads (EBC HH came in at about £75 if i remember rightly), new chain & sprockets (£120 for DID Extreme) and that was about it. My 996 already had new tyres which saved me £200.

    Everyone obviously has their own opinion on that they are prepared to pay, but off the bat without having a look around it myself id agree with the £2000 mark.
     
  7. I agree but even if you found a good condition, regularly used bike there is usually some expenditure, loads seem to need the belts changing and due to the low mileages many are running around on 5 year old tyres. So even if the seller states "recently serviced" that's usually just the minimum, oil and filters


    The risk with this one is the unknown, however as long as I had the assurance that it was running before storage I would happily pay around £2000 for it unseen
     
  8. Turned in to quite an interesting little thread this!!

    As I’ sure we all know, the price of anything is based on its perceived value put on it by the seller and the buyer. The seller will always want top dollar, and the buyer will always want bottom dollar. Ergo, value is a very subjective matter it seems.

    A quick e-bay UK search throws up a bunch of 748 model bikes. Stuff ranging from a rather nice 748r at £7.5k, all the way to a bike very similar to the one being discussed here starting at £2k.

    Ducati 748 Biposto 2002 13500 miles, 7 months tax, MOT June 2014, Chester | eBay

    DUCATI 748 | eBay

    2001 DUCATI 748S | eBay

    I myself have a 52 748’s which is spotless, always serviced at a Ducati dealer for it’s first 3 years, then serviced with Ducati supplied parts ever since and installed by a Ducati trained mech at an independent. It’s modestly modified and I have a receipt for everything I’ve ever put on it. If it were for sale, would I selling it for less than £6k, not a chance – would someone pay £6k for it, I very much doubt it….!

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    As for not having my finger on the pulse, given you don’t really know me is a bit of a shot in the dark I’d say. But, that’s your opinion I guess!!



    If all you want to do is stick it back on the road, chuck £1k at it and I’m sure it’ll run. However, I don’t get the impression that is what you want to do here.

    Now this is all circumstantial as we have no idea if there is an issue, but you’d be gutted if you paid top what for a non running bike, that has issues with the rockers… As Red998 said, it’s unlikely that all 16 are shot. Most probably just a few that replaced and some that require plating. Below are a few pics of mine after they were removed. Newman cam’s will do them, as will John at JHP.

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    I think most of us agree, this bike is worth the risk at £1.5k, much more than that and the risk could bite. You can always offer say £1.2k, have the shims and rockers checked and if all is well, agree a separate price, say £1.7k and you can carry on with the other bits…!

    It’s a great bike, this one has potential – it’s just a matter of how much risk you’re prepared to take. My view, get all the bits done properly at an independent service center with proper Ducati parts. After all, you’ll be riding the thing and it'll hurt more than your pocket if something were to go wrong with you aboard…

    Caveat Emptor

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    #28 Bullitt, Nov 20, 2013
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  9. ^ Nice bike :upyeah: - it would be really foolish of me to guess it's value in Qatar though (TFIC) Re: price, think you'll find the majority agree it's worth 2K plus if you want to prolong the nit-picking.
     
  10. Bullitt, that's a great write up, thanks for that, I am sure it will help.

    Worth adding that it's an early 748s so you potentially need to look at making sure the Alternator/Reg/REC Wiring and battery are all good. Later bikes were much better in this respect, I (and everyone else) is not trying to put you off, just making sure you are armed with ALL the facts.

    I'm sticking with my guns, £2000 and you won't be a mile off, allow for a few rockers.
     
  11. Chris, you're average Qatari wouldn't know what these things are. Unless it says Land Cruiser on the front, AMG on the back, Starbucks on the side or has lots of 0's after the price, they really are clueless.... very odd place and glad I left!!

    As for price, I think there's more than enough info here for the buyer to make his own decisions.

    It's all just good banter :upyeah:
     
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  12. Is the bike a 748E or a 748 Biposto (sometimes known as an S)? For me this would make a difference in considering buying it. The 748E had a non adjustable steering head and very basic screw style dzus fasteners. If it is an E model, possibly an early one, then it should have the later electrics and brakes.

    One good point that no one has mentioned, that I can see, is that it does have Marchesini wheels and these were not standard on any 748E or Biposto that I am aware of, it would have had three spoke wheels. That is one point in favour of the bike, a set of Marchesini's still goes from £400 to sometimes over £600 at the moment.

    Added:- I checked Ian Faloon's model guide and it looks like for 2000/2001 that the Marchesini's were added to the S model as it was named (not to be confused with the earlier "S" as I was!). 420 sold in the UK in the year 2000.
     
    #32 Red998, Nov 20, 2013
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  13. Guy's/Girls, Yes you've been excellent as expected, with lots of input: many thanks indeed.

    Owner is over in UK early next year, so will know more after that.

    It's far from certain that my finances can stretch to buying/restoring it at this point, and he may just say 'well sell it on my behalf then'

    Either way i'll post back here, but if it's the latter, this seems like a good place to find a good new owner going forward.

    cheers :smile:
     
  14. I did wonder if the wheels were original as I don't think the 5-spokes came out until the silver frame models, this one is almost certainly an 'S' or 'Biposto' but not an 'E'. I had an 'E' and they had silver frames, and were 2001-2003 I think.
     
  15. FYI: It has Showa front and rear, Ducati Corse on the Tach and 748S on the rear side panels if that helps.
    I can check the log book later tonight (very <too?> trusting current owner..) 08082009291.jpg

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    #35 Rowdey, Nov 20, 2013
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  16. it says "748S" on the arse end. Still a bottom end model, but in good nick. £2k as it sits for a prvate sale. Tinker it up a bit (belts, oil fluids) give it a polish and sell on for 3k
     
    #36 Cranker V2, Nov 20, 2013
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  17. The 2000 model was called a biposto and was effectively an E but without the stepped cylinder as it had a fixed headstock and the screw like dzus fasteners. In 2001 it became known as the E and in 2002 the S changed again mostly due to colour as Gunmetal Grey became available for the first time in the 748 range, 116 were sold in Grey and 60 in Red. I seem to remember them being about £9,000ish+ compared to about £8,500 for an E and £10,500 for a 998.

    So it looks like it is an S from the 2000/2001 period, an intermediate bike. Does it have an adjustable headstock out of interest?
     
    #37 Red998, Nov 20, 2013
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  18. I've got no more pics of it to hand, but can check in couple of weeks.
     
  19. Looks to me like it does have adjustable steering head, you can just see the adjustment screw on the pic above, under the top yoke. My 2002 'E' didn't have that.
     
  20. So it must be a true S from the period, a fairly rare bike, less than 500 sold. If that's the case then maybe it's worth just that bit more? it's all down to negotiation!
     
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