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Anti Vehicle Noise Cameras

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by outintheopen, Jun 8, 2019.

  1. You may not be able to beat 'the man' but theres a whole load of difference between fighting and just rolling over. I'll keep fighting until I die. If you roll over, you're just dead already.
     
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  2. Fight them where they aren't.
    He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight.

    :upyeah::bucktooth:
     
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  3. So what are the decibel limits ...how can we prove our bikes are acceptable. Who sets the limits and are they legal . Surely you can't be fined without any proof
     
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  4. Exactly.
    To me it seems a myriad.
    Euro 4, for example has a noise section and some stringent testing criteria, so for a euro 4 bike, you could be fined under construction and use if your exhaust is louder than standard, but how do they know what standard is? The noise test apparatus would need to know the sound pressure levels in the Euro 4 test that a bike made and then be able to say that in the same test conditions a bike was louder. Except that these new noise cameras aren't measuring according to those test conditions.
    I feel a FOI request in the future.
     
  5. I suspect you'll see euro style non-tamper laws coming in.
     
  6. Already on the (near) horizon, MAG has been drumming up support to try and nip it in the bud for several months. Andy
     
  7. Been on the horizon for over a decade.
    Enforced by El Plodo in Spain and by the TUV test.
     
  8. The laws are already there, just not enforced.
     
  9. Apparently ridden slowly and with due respect even a race exhaust wont trigger them. They will only be in residential areas.
    So for any one with a little common sense you should be OK
     
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  10. Not in a residential area in Bristol, the site is on the ring road, dual carriageway. It was a national, now a 50, there are houses built after the road was built.
     
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  12. The problem with this country is that we often legislate for the lowest common denominator. The perpetrators will ignore any laws anyways and carry on and the rest of us will be lumbered. Then plod will use that same legislation to put a stop to or disupt other totally unrelated things.

    All we really need are more traffic cops. Proper ones that give you a ticking off like they used to. But then no-one wants to pay tax for police or anything. As long as they have their 3rd car on pcp. Meanwhile when they get burgled they then wonder why theres no effin cops around. Repeat for all other services we are supposed to enjoy.
     
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  13. BikeSocial is all right. I've read some really interesting stuff on there, detailed reviews and comparisons etc.
     
  14. Much of the non-vehicle anti-social behavior (inc drug dealing and stabbings) happens along the footpaths/cycle paths/alleyways/parks. These areas are no longer regularly patrolled by plod since beat coppers were budgeted out of existence, instead they're harvesting fines for Babylon on busy motorways.
     
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  15. Whereabouts on the ring road is it?
     
  16. “The camera on the A4174 will be installed between the Kingsfield and Wraxall Road roundabouts, near Barrs Court and Warmley. Other cameras will be introduced in Bradford, Great Yarmouth and Birmingham.”
     
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  17. Had a look at the road on streetview - not the kind of location I would have expected.

    I had envisioned a built up urban street with residential buildings in close proximity would be the kind of locations that would be appropriate - not a dual carriageway ring road.

    I guess the local boy racers must use the roundabouts as a circuit?
     
  18. Maybe they don't want the ambient noise if a residential estate like noisy lawnmowers, they can't make money from noisy lawnmowers
     
  19. They still would have been an immigrant, as BoJo was born in that Americky
     
  20. Between Asda/cineworld roundabout and the new improved Warmley junction.
     
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