I understand that most CCTV is monitored by local government officials not the Police, so it would be their decision to notify the Police of a live incident that would require action.
The CCTV that I was referring to is monitored in the Police station (I know because I have seen the setup as a parent chaperone on a Cubs visit), I don't know exactly who monitors it though.
I don't see how it's against my previous points? I'm for intrusive surveillance, and having an act caught on camera so the offender can be punished is pro-surveillance?
Your justification for intrusive surveillance was that it would prevent bad things happening, clearly it can't in the majority of cases, so I think the loss of personal freedom and rights to anonminous covert Government sponsored, but not controlled, organisation and its contractors is not worth it.
The Guardian has produced a fairly flashy part of its website to examining the whole NSA issue. It makes for some informative reading/viewing: NSA files decoded: Edward Snowden's surveillance revelations explained | World news | theguardian.com The points about freedom of the press are very relevant. In a society in which government agencies have access to all secrets and all information, how long would a free press last? There is also the point about industrial espionage. If US agencies read all communications, then how does that affect the way companies, especially non-US companies, do business? The whole "I've got nothing to hide" argument is a naïve one, it seems to me, which only scratches the surface of the implications of total data surveillance.
The whole thing is corrupt, we aint in control of our futures ( jobs, morgtgage rates etc etc, elec, gas, heating, petrol, diesel ) no matter what you think. We are pawns is all... I dont like the way things are going.
Well you should be worried now. If it wasn't against the law before, it is now! Welcome to 1930s Germany... At last, a law to stop almost anyone from doing almost anything | George Monbiot | Comment is free | The Guardian
Well I enjoyed the Criminal Justice Bill demonstrations in London as much as the raves they were designed to stop.
Was there a time when we were in control? I've been paying a mortgage since 1985, back in the '90's mortgage interest rates were up to 15%, I pay less than 2% at the moment. The economy has never been in control, when I left school in 1981 there were no jobs, house prices crashed in 1989, we had a recession in the early 1990's as well as the current economic crisis, there were no golden years, this is it!
i think we just forget, watching the Dave Allan tribute the other nite i remember the issues and the attitudes being discussed watching it, i kept thinking about this thread, that was the 60s and 70s.
That was funny. I loved Dave Allen. Yep it was a proggy of the times though. All the priests were chasing ladies in his sketches.
It certainly is. The Anti-social Behaviour etc Bill was introduced into Parliament in May 2013 and is now nearly at the end of its progress, so it's a bit late to start getting outraged now. Some of us were outraged 8 months ago.
Of course economies are never "in control". The government, the Treasury and the Bank of England have got a few levers they can pull which may or may not have the desired effects (always assuming anyone can agree what the desired effects might be). Economics is not an exact science!
Economics - the dismal science. There is a reason why politics and economics are often studied alongside philosophy.
I find it quite encouraging in some respects that people always imagine a perfect time in which the economy was all rosy and there were no wars. The reality is that the economy is never rosy for long and there are always wars. Neither of these things will ever change, judging by past experience. But it's good to imagine that they could - at least it's something to aim for.
