Being Burned Alive In A Cage

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by deleteduser211220, Feb 3, 2015.

  1. I'm sorry to say but I can't see a military solution,much as though I would love to see these shits getting a taste of their own medicine. There is one resource they cannot function without,and that my friends is money. Where is this money coming from . It comes from Middle Eastern states, can we tell them to shut the bank,no,why?because they have oil,and a lot of it. So our so called first world governments can talk the talk,but they cannot walk the walk,quite impotent infact. I do believe that we need to see our Muslim population openly March in their millions,like the French did recently to denounce these morons. It needs to happen worldwide for maximum effect. I know it's only a tiny percentage of the worldwide population who are causing problems,but it must be denounced by Muslims. I hear Muslim speakers saying a The church doesn't have to apologise every time a Christian murders someone . But I believ this is fundamentally different , these horrific crimes are carried out in the name of Islam,and if my lot were behaving this way I would be out there speaking out.
     
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  2. Here's a serious question for our (ex) services members. There was this quote in Our War from a soldier in Afghanistan:

    "“At times you’d think, ‘How did they get over there?’ Then you remember that you’ve got 120 pounds’ worth of kit on and they’re just running around in a bedsheet and flip-flops.”

    I noticed this and thought: a lot of the patrols are only a kilometre or so from a British camp. What have our soldiers got in a 120 lb pack that is essential for a patrol? As a civvy, I have no idea. It does seem like an awful lot of kit to get soldiers to run around with in searing heat. Is it really all necessary?

    I'd be really interested to hear the answer. Thanks.
     
  3. Personally I think Islam is beyond redemption but if there is such a thing as a tolerant and pluralistic Muslim "community", capable of accepting non-Muslims as equals, then the best way to mobilise this hitherto invisible throng is to let ISIS do their work. They pose little real threat to the west, beyond the murderous incitement of a few individuals within our society who should not be here in the first place, and who for the most part could easily be removed now if the political will was there. Those most at risk from ISIS are other Muslims. I'm afraid to say they are unlikely to turn against this fascism until they have had a taste of it. The rage of Jordan is a small wake-up call. Unpalatable though it is, there will probably need to be many more.
     
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  4. Maybe @pingping010101 can inform.
     
  5. Maybe they meant £120 not 120lbs ?
     

  6. As an ex Polaris submariner i have no idea why you would want to carry around a lot of heavy stuff, just dive to 200' and fek off somewhere else surely.
    Sorry, facetious answer.
     
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  7. Perhaps we could encourage and support responses from Muslims like the mayor of Rotterdam gave after the Paris thing, live on Tv to boot.
    Am i surprised it did not make the TV news here? no not really.

    Boris gave the guy a big thumbs up though.
     
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  8. I reckon the Muslim nations need to sort this out.
     
  9. But in which way?
    IS are Sunnis, many of which incidentally, are in Jordan and while they are spreading across Syria and Iraq; you could argue that the Arabs should sort it out.......but would Iran get involved if they aren't already?.........and then there are Boko Harum doing their bit elsewhere, plus the Bosnians appear to have their own little group of IS kicking off, which is getting a bit bizarre bearing in mind the Albanian Muslims that were being persecuted by the Serbs and the Bosnians, IIRC.

    If the Western powers and their Middle East allies have something up their sleeves, f-nose what it is; because I can't see them arresting the creep of IS which is going to be springing up in some form or another everywhere at this rate.
     
  10. I don't think it is a western problem. Please don't think that I like what is happening, but speaking for myself, I do not understand their systems, beliefs, social set.
    These so called extremists, I have other words for them, need to be routed out by those that risk being blanketed with a perception that they are all alike.
    Religious, holy wars have been fought and another unfortunately is needed.
     
  11. Religion. Biggest killer bar the mosquito.
     
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  12. You must be old ;)
     
  13. Three things
    Ammunition
    Ammunition
    Ammunition

    You really don't want to be running out of bullets if Terry Taliban comes visiting, plus you're wearing body armour and probably carrying a radio as well as carrying as much water as you can squeeze into your webbing
     
  14. But their packs are bloody enormous. If you met someone backpacking with one of those, you'd reckon he was walking the Pennine Way over two weeks without seeing civilisation.
    You must be able to get an awful lot of bullets in there.
    As for the radios - it seems miniaturisation has passed the Army by, when everyone has an iPhone the size of a chocolate bar.
     
  15. It looks like the US air campaign will be stepping up fairly soon, today I saw a number of Galaxy cargo aircraft heading for Fairford with fighter escorts. My guess is they were carrying ammunition for the long range bombers.
     
  16. They don't go on foot patrol with their bergans on
     
  17. Well, that is pretty much what they did seem to tote around during the footage from Our War. Check it out.
     
  18. that's what happens when you start letting woman in to the army. it will have everything bar the f.ing kitchen sink in it.
     
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  19. Sorry for the late reply, I have been dragging 120lb of kit up and down big hills in Otterburn.

    Ammunition, water, food. In that order.

    Kit that also must go is divided amongst the chaps. Motar bombs, picks and shovels, radios, spare batteries, spare barrels for machine guns. Any special mission specific equipment plus med equipment and then personal kit such as a change of socks, something warm to put on when it gets cold.

    I've never been any where carrying a light day sack and I've very rarely used everything I carry, but I wouldn't be without any of it. Everything is about winning the fight, keeping oneself and ones mates alive and getting one back if one gets hurt.

    If you investigate the weight of ammunition you quickly see where the weight goes. Ammo, water, food. Heavy.
     
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