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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. I find it remarkable that faced with the choice:

    1. Paying taxes to a UK Government who runs things the way they want, regardless of the needs and desires of the UK Public, and
    2. Paying taxes as above, plus also paying for the EU to run things the way they want, regardless of the needs and desires of the UK Public

    people want to choose Option No 2?

    Nowt as strange as some folk.
     
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  2. Are you saying that your business is adapting to the situation? If so, has your company ever needed to adapt to changes in rules, laws , financial and operating procedures ever before?
     
  3. hmm, a modern democratic organisation using a PR system that works by consesus over a FPTP system that has instuments available to them whereby the house of lords can change laws without consent. yip, thats a tuff one. :rolleyes:
     
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  4. More employment! Good result.

    Seriously though, I am not minimising your feelings of irritation at the loss of productivity and the added complication resulting from preparing for a real Brexit, should we ever get one. I imagine this is a major headache for you, and for people in your position.

    Let me be clear though - your preferences and your inconveniences do not trump the concerns of 17.4m voters.

    Many of these voters want to be able to blame Westminster for all that goes wrong in the UK, rather than blaming Brussels. It is our right, as the majority, to see sovereignty returned to the UK (so that we can better moan about our leaders).

    Also, this so that if the UK public ever wants to take a proper interest in how the country is run, we have direct access to the people in charge - something that cannot ever happen under the EU model of government.

    TL;DR - your concerns do not outweigh other people's concerns.
     
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  5. To be fair fin we are copying your system....Our governing house is trying to overturn a peoples democratic majority vote on independence too
     
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  6. Or keep an un-elected "Commission" who proposes all the rules, and keeps proposing them until ineffectual, cowed, bribed "elected" members of the EU Parliament give in through sheer fatigue?

    You make a compelling argument, finderman! : o D
     
  7. Your question is meaningless as I think you already know the answer to it.

    if you were aware of the level of additional cost (and potential delays) involved, and that these costs will be passed to the consumer (and will be repeated across multiple industries), you might be less flippant.
     
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  8. yip, thats doable in a democrasy init?
     
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  9. they can invent all they like, but it dont go through without a vote, a vote i used to have a say in.
     
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  10. More bastarding code FFS!
     
  11. I don't think I've ever suggested they did.

    The level of additional cost and potential disruption is however a consequence of the outcome of the referendum and will effect some more than others.
     
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  12. did you not have a voice in the EU Parliment? did you feel your soverignty was deminished by it? whats the reference point for excessiv deminishment?
     
  13. My point is valid that is why you are annoyed because yes, all business's adapt to change, what they do not like is when they are not the ones doing the changing. Please with the bleeding heart approach of costs will be passed on, you had no problem doing it before brexit.

    Good business's will adapt and it's also again worth mentioning 95% of U.K. business's do not do business outside of the U.K..
     
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  14. I think fin might be employed like one of them navajo's in ww2 if we need a secret radio talker
     
  15. So you don't currently deal outside of the EU then? If so you already have an EORI? :thinkingface:
     
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  16. I was sarcastic when I wrote "project fear" as it seems all data supplied by our own Gov. is labelled as such by the Leavers.
     
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  17. She said right at the beginning "No deal is better than a bad deal". The best she can get from the EU is this bad deal. Tell the Commons that this is a bad deal, therefore we can't vote on it and will leave on WTO rules on March 29th. Sorted.
     
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  18. It is not so easy as you make it sound.... Us for example we buy finshed bespoke made products from both UK and EU market, however a lot of parts for these products are supplied by us(some shipped abroad) it will be quite complex to work within this system. Not impossible but my accountant will be hit by some extra tasks..in return my pocket will be lighter :) Since we are dealing only with EU based companies we had no need for EORI. I am suprised you registered for EORI back in 2015 since it was not required for the EU market. Is this because you was importing belts from the USA and selling in the EU market?
     
  19. Has the penny not dropped yet? The only consensus in parliament is not to leave without a deal.

    It will be May's deal or a rebotched version of it. The only way we leave on WTO terms is if through another referendum and there is no way they will give us that choice.
     
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