The plan will be to hold any second referendum after 2067 that way all us coffin dodging brainless racists will be dead and all the snowflakes can have their own way.
Although I was born in and do fancy living in London at some point so that bit stands! Have a butchers at his 'Scooby doo Thatcher Routine', pure gold.
Seen it, but Osama Bin Laden is best. "I didn't know who Max Hardcore was when I heard this quote, he's in violent American pronography. So I looked him up on the internet, and now I'm on the sex offenders register."
From the Biased Bullshit Corporations website: “The UK is due to leave the European Union on 29 March, 2019 - it's the law, regardless of whether there is a deal with the EU or not. Stopping Brexit would require a change in the law in the UK. The European Court of Justice ruled on 10 December 2018 that the UK could cancel the Article 50 Brexit process without the permission of the other 27 EU members, and remain a member of the EU on its existing terms, provided the decision followed a "democratic process". “
Plan b is that the Donald has British roots, he can’t get the money to built a wall in USA, so we swapp him with Mother Theresa and give the Donald some money, so he can build a wall around old Blighty ?
Old people who support leaving the EU: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1167250363450442 https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=403590183798636
Just to clarify. If there is a second referendum, the result will be a reversal of the first. The Establishment was unprepared for an electorate that wasn't cowed by Project Fear - it never entered their minds that the public would vote Leave, so they made no real attempt to ensure the "correct result". They won't make that mistake a second time. There could be a 2nd Ref, if the Establishment feels that it is the only way to secure Remain. Although the current PM says no, the issue of Remain is more important than any individual minister, PM, party or even democracy. MayBot would happily sacrifice herself if she thinks that her stepping down could open the door to a 2nd Ref that could lead to over-turning Brexit. Just watch her.
Nicely put. “Found this letter by Lawyer Toby Brothers on another group. If you agree, please share and either post/email your MP today or tomorrow before the vote on Tuesday 15th January 2019. Read and share this everyone Below is the letter written by Lawyer Toby Brothers - please copy/paste/share/circulate. Lawyer TOBY BROTHERS letter - COPY/PASTE/SHARE to MPs etc Dear I am watching events with increasing alarm and despair. I have read the 585 pages of a Transition deal with all its references and complexities. It is wholly unacceptable, and I have never been so shocked in all my life that intelligent people could even imagine that it is a ‘good deal’. If the Tories cannot deliver a proper Brexit before the next election, then a political chasm is certain, and the election will be lost to Corbyn. The Tories would be in wilderness territory. I watch politician after politician speak and it is all too clear many have not studied their subject and have little idea of world trade or tariffs. The WTO arrangement with safeguards could be easily applied and would be leaving properly thereby saving us a huge sum. We pay £11bn net member fee, £3.1bn of our Vat, and our non-EU imports are tariffed to the tune of £16bn pa pushing up prices and 80% of this goes to the EU. We are losing £4-5bn pa of our fishing industry Heath gave away. There are several billion £ of pointless grants made with our own money apart from the net member fee, such as ‘set aside’ upon which savings could be made. The Treasury calculated in 2005 for Gordon Brown, that compliance with EU regulations costs UK industry 6-7% of GDP annually (http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/…/global_europe_1…) That is over £130bn pa much of which is wasted costs, yet only 12% of businesses have any direct or indirect business with the EU. The most important thing now is that the UK must not be left having to comply with the EU rulebook in future. Even if full tariffs were imposed under WTO, Sterling would adjust by 4-5% to cope immediately. Average WTO tariffs are 3-5%. Look instead at the superb options open to us and the EU cannot prevent them if we just leave on WTO- E.g. 1. The UK would receive £12bn pa in tariffs at the full WTO rates if we impose them on our EU imports alone and a further £13-14bn on non-EU imports. 2. We could also choose selective tariffs and impose nil tariffs on any class of imported goods we wish from all the world, such as food, medicine or even car parts. 3. OR We could simply impose no tariffs on anything with no extra customs work required for EU goods and reducing it from the 111 countries with whom we already trade under WTO rules. Imagine REFUNDING our businesses, all WTO tariffs imposed by Brussels (by reduced taxes/business rates or other means) would cost about £6bn, and LESS than our net member fee. An intelligent application would leave us competitive and in a better place to negotiate excellent trade agreements across the world. There’s no £39bn divorce bill either, an amount the government have never explained or justified. We would be out of the single market and Customs Union and therefore free as an independent sovereign nation should be. People did not vote to be shackled to the EU any longer or the possibility of massive bail outs for Italy, now bust beyond belief as a result of EU policy and the Euro. The EU would be terrified if we leave under WTO terms because their deal as offered is designed to strip us of all competitive advantage possible. The prize of leaving is huge yet so many are still unaware of the advantages it is very sad. Talk of cliff edge etc is totally wrong if an effort is made to prepare the ground, which could be done very rapidly. The Prime Minister has deliberately kept two Brexit Secretary’s in the dark about parallel negotiations she has capriciously been conducting. She lives in a parallel universe in relation to the deal she offers. She made encouraging noises about leaving the Single market and Customs Union initially and you all stood on a manifesto promising to do just that. It is essential to leave both to make a success of Brexit, yet her deal is a million miles away from doing this. She is not being truthful about the nature of this deal as it specifically does NOT deliver the referendum result. It is a deal for a Transition period only. She should have been negotiating a Withdrawal trade Agreement, which may have contained a brief transition. This proposal has a particularly devastating fault which is inexplicable and dangerous. It does not allow the British government to unilaterally withdraw from the transition period and has no fixed end date by which there must be a Trade Agreement, or automatic withdrawal under WTO, if none were agreed. The transition can be extended indefinitely without any power to stop it - Article 132 is totally unacceptable and No wonder the EU want us to agree it! The EU can then pass laws we must obey which are wholly against our interests, interpreted by the ECJ. We would have to continue funding the EU AT A RATE SET BY THE EU with NO BUDGET REBATE REQUIRED. EU law will continue to have effect as if we were a member – Article 127. But we won’t have any MEP’s or say over anything we must obey and the ECJ continues its ruinous rule – Articles 86 & 131. Indeed, the ECJ will remain with us in many ways as it is the final court of interpretation for Mrs May’s deal – Article 174(1). We would have to comply with their Judgement on it, under Article 89(1). The EU would be able to continue to treat our territorial waters as their own and we may only be ‘consulted’ under Article 130 as to what fishing we may do. Most of anything useful is contained in the non-binding political declaration and Mrs May is using text from it to try and persuade Britain she has a worthwhile deal. Matters of co-operation can easily be agreed post leaving and piece by piece. This deal is nothing but a surrender. There is no incentive on the EU to agree any form of so called ‘Free Trade’ deal with us and they can continue to disagree with anything we put forward, holding us in a ‘backstop’ customs union they control. We will also be forced to comply with ‘level playing field conditions’ covering tax, environment, employment, state aid and competition policy. See P311. All with no control or say. The backstop also means the UK will be fractured down the Irish sea. These provisions mean that effectively we are in the single market subject to swathes of public policy. There is scant democracy about the EU now, but this deal is an abrogation of responsibility to maintain and recover all our sovereignty, being the whole point of voting Brexit. There is plenty more alarming stuff, but I have said enough. There is no right in British law to give a foreign power control of this sort within a Treaty or to pass legislation which cannot be repealed by a successor Parliament. You will not find a Treaty anywhere in the world where the parties have no right to withdraw from it unilaterally. I therefore ask that you do not support Mrs May’s deal. Otherwise you are voting for a colonial status. If there’s No Brexit there will be no Tory party and this deal is NOT Brexit. It is essential to vote May’s deal down and put together a safeguarding package to protect our affected industry to leave absolutely and finally under WTO terms. We trade like this with 111 other countries around the world. 408 (62.8%) constituencies voted to LEAVE. It is still not too late to prevent this betrayal by instead leaving on WTO rules. It is the duty of every MP to mobilise and to lobby for that. We must not be left in the position of a vassal state nor exposed by REMAINING to the enormous liabilities arising from the emerging Eurozone disaster, an EU army and fiscal union. Yours sincerely”,
sounds like my mate who insists on buying everything cornish just cos he live there now.........every now and then i remind him he is from Norf landan
Who said it was a "protest vote against EU policy". We were told we were joining a common market not a federal Europe. It is not a bed in which we wanted to reside, if you want to stay in that shitty bed then move over the channel (oh you have! then you may prefer to stay there). Where will you go when the rest of Europe wakes up to the way the EU is going, and they all want out?
Yep, if the majority in Parliament don't want it, a stitch up is inevitable. I've envisaged this from day one of the 52/48 result. What I'm not so sure about is where it all goes next... The betrayal
I think it became obvious fairly quickly that they would remain if they could, they just need a way of doing so that avoids riots. something like 'we tried really hard but it's cant be done until we have fixed .............' Next time they ask us to vote on an issue perhaps they should just tell us what result they would like ?
Or better both sides be honest... explain the facts... not make stuff up... then let people decide based on Fact... not wishes or fiction...
