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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. They were touting the Norway option, not WTO!
     
  2. And then we all woke up, and came to our senses.
     
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  3. So when we voted leave or stay in the eu, a Norway as well as a cream puff sliding scale was on the ballot paper too??? no wonder why you are confused old? The vote leave was never dependent on a deal
     
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  4. She obviously doesn't like the taste of what is to come...........or maybe someone already has on a promise of supporting her deal :eek:

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  5. The FT link didn't work for me, so I tried google and got this

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-45875599

    This is my problem, who do I believe ?
     
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  6. Not that close - 67% in favour on a national turnout of 64%.
     
  7. Remainers. Just believe Remainers. Religious zealots always know everything and have all the answers : o )
     
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  8. Okay general question for remainers.

    Let's say we had a second vote and the figures remained the same but swapped who had them so remain was now 51.9% and leave was now 48.1 %

    What now?
     
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  9. I think you will find that the people will have had their say and that is a clear mandate for remain of course.
     
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  10. Another interesting scenario - what if the vote is in favour of Remain ... but the turnout for the 2nd Ref is 25%?

    But no - I too want an answer to noob's question:

    Let's say we had a second vote and the figures remained the same but swapped who had them so remain was now 51.9% and leave was now 48.1 %

    What now?
     
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  11. I’d like to know the answer to that too please.
     
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  12. That looks quite neutral, no bias to either side given that parliament is overwhelmingly remain.
     
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  13. Nope, usual waffle. Perhaps you not reading properly is causing your silly replies, lets try again, concentrate now

    Let's say we had a second vote and the figures remained the same but swapped who had them so remain was now 51.9% and leave was now 48.1 %

    What now?
     
  14. You must be new here.

    The 2016 Referendum was ostensibly, and thus legally, meant to answer a question that Parliament had been unable to put to bed for thirty years or more.

    You expecting Parliament to be able to come up with a substantive answer when your question demanded a 2/3 majority of the public - and failed to get that 2-1 majority - seems, at best, fanciful.

    The initial referendum wasn't meant to result in Leave. Nonetheless, it resulted in Leave. So we should Leave.

    Defining "Leave" is not difficult, if you are clear-headed.
     
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  15. A second referendum won't be as simple yes or no as the first referendum.

    the second vote will be more specific ....obviously with a remain option on it too.
     
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  16. I'm going to stick my neck out and say I think if that was the result of a second ref we would remain in the EU
     
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  17. Lets say you didn't notice the bit that clearly said, "we had a second vote" then this makes the question easier for some who are struggling

    Let's say we had a second vote and the figures remained the same but swapped who had them so remain was now 51.9% and leave was now 48.1 %

    What now?
     
  18. Conflicted relationship with Europe? Conflict resolution within Europe may be a more appropriate observation if we're making comparisons of countries and their relationships with Europe. The referendum is about leaving the EU not Europe. The UK would remain as a significant trading partner with most of the EU member states.

    Not sure what relevance the language is. We have English, Welsh, Gaelic, Cornish as native languages. The most widely spoken language after English is Polish or Welsh depending on your source.

    Take a look at this link:
     
  19. People seem to make this mistake, and it's mainly Remainders so far as I can tell.

    Put simply (cos I know that Remainders like simple best of all):

    The EU is no more "Europe" than Westminster is "The United Kingdom".

    I hope this explanation will help clear up some confusion and, hopefully, set some folks on a new line of thought.
     
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  20. What May and the Remoaners are relying upon is that they hope the Leavers will be so disgusted with what happens in the next few days (or until the second vote) that they will say "Well, F - you MPs and Government, I'm never voting again if this is supposed to be democracy" and a high percentage won't vote; thus the Remoaners will win.

    The fact that there was ever a vote in the first place is because twit Cameron promised one which he did solely to stuff it up the EU because he didn't get his deal.

    So, having had that promise to the voters, the Government had to honour it but they didn't think the result would be Leave.
     
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