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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Varies who you listen to fin

    I can think of two people in Scotland are saying "It wasn't me"...if that helps? :D
     
  2. Homeless is far too often choice, poverty is dependant what you call poverty, not many living with out a phone, Game console, TV that drink and smoke and gamble, so not hard up in my books, Crime partly due to be being in EU with open borders, infrastructure is struggling to over population EU again, national debt will only get worse if any other party gets in.
    So many ways to look at the fake news stats.
    Even Food Banks, people go get their food for free, then go to Tescos and get their beer and fags.
     
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  3. May annouced she will not lead the Tories into any future elections, I think it was a behind the scenes stipulation to avoid being deposed a few weeks back.

    Voters chose between the manifesto they prefer of dislike the least. Thats always been the case.
     
  4. Politicians are voted in by their electorate
     
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  5. On May, I think although she said that, she will run till brexit is finished, I can't see a tory at the moment willing to step in, they will find a way around it

    On the manifesto's not so sure it's always been the manifesto but will be interesting to see how much their manifesto's would change from only as recently as the 2017 general election?
     
  6. Tories would have to match some of the impossible promises that labour made just to get seats like in the last election.
     
  7. Dude. I have suggested a few primers on politics but it's no use me giving you my list of suggested reading as it will, sorry to be blunt, be well above your level of comprehension.

    Tell you what. You get caught up with the homework (you can achieve this by starting to do the homework in the first place) and then we can talk about more advanced stuff. I warn you though - there's no pictures of pine martens for you there.
     
  8. People prefer to sleep outside in the winter? Crimewave has little or nothing to do with slashing the policeforce? Child pverty is massive by all estimates relative to past years. NHS waiting times are doubled from 2008.

    Which brings us to the national debt. No party in the history of the country has ever increased the debt this much in peacetime. If you think thats acceptable, and are happy to continue, thats your choice. I bet you would have changed your Ducati mechanic if their performance was similar....
     
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  9. Happily May is not going to be the leader at the next election. She hopes that won't be until 2022, but confirms the party want someone different.

    “Yes, I’ve said that in my heart I would love to be able to lead the Conservative party into the next general election, but I think it is right that the party feels it would prefer to go into that election with a new leader,”
    https://www.theguardian.com/politic...lead-conservatives-into-next-general-election

    Last nights historic defeat confirms she is toast.
     
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  10. The idea of a parliamentary democracy is that the electorate vote in representatives in a GE who make decisions on their behalf.
    If they don't like their decisions, they can vote someone else in at the next GE
     
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  11. Dude. I have suggested a few primers on politics but it's no use me giving you my list of suggested reading as it will, sorry to be blunt, be well above your level of comprehension.
    :D
    you know and joling aside. i think you actually mean this. so maybe yer right when it comes to your acusations of eleitisem in the EU. takes one to know one an awwrat. jesus, how frustraiting yer day job must be and maybe goes some way towards explainig yer latent agression, and some of yer overly defensive replys.
    dude, you need to calm doon. its only a bike forum dear.
    :p
     
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  12. Um, 52% voted leave. You know how majorities work in a democracy, right?

    Absolutely. The parliamentarians decide.

    Guess what? Parliament couldn't make its mind up and decided upon the idea of a Referendum, where the people decide the question, in order that the stalemate can be broken. That's what our Parliament decided. With a very large majority when voted upon, IIRC, something like 6 to 1.

    What's the matter, don't you agree with Parliament making decisions on our behalf?

    Very true. In the 2017 GE, the vast majority of politicians were voted in on a manifesto that included making Brexit happen.

    Damn, you really hate having our Parliamentarians run things, don't you?
     
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  13. It could be read that way, and I expect ay would have wanted that - I certainly could be wrong! But after last night? May won't lead the Tories into anymore major issues imo.
     
  14. nah, no time for your meaningless intelectual battles over a cigar and a glass of port. to busy getting the most out of the lads and ensuring everybody including the lads leave happy at the end of every day. *finger* :D
     
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  15. If only I could calm down! Oh, wait, you said "calm down". That ought to do it.

    So calm now ... wanna noogie? Make you feel better and it's gluten-free : o D
     
  16. well durr, you have spent the last 5years telling us how pish they all are.
    i guess this is the obvious reaction. hate em, hate em all.
     
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  17. no, i dont trust yer motivs
     
  18. All true. But there isn't going to be a GE anytime in the immediate future anyway.
     
  19. In a general election I would agree, we vote for the party or MP and give them permission to use there best judgment to act on our behalf. In a referendum we INSTRUCT and expect them to carry out our decision. Two completely different circumstances. In my opinion anyway.
    Steve
     
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  20. Agree, the referendum wasn't half a dozen silly promises in a manifesto selecting any particular party, it was a clear instruction that all mps' who voted in the house to allow the vote, agreed they would deliver on.

    The choice was a clear direction, until the remain side mp's got involved and turned it into a "spectrum" when it lost.
     
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