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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. MORE than half of those that voted, voted to leave!
     
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  2. The clue was one side won and the other side didn't. What exactly did he think the last two and and a half years were about, fighting to get into the eu?
     
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  3. differant gov up here. different nhs outcomes
    anyhoo, away to yer me me me retirment thread
     
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  4. It’s a Brexit Crisis now.

    Says so on sky news.
     
  5. yip, now get over it and get on with the rest of yer sorry life
     
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  6. The fact that the EU was never - ever - going to offer the UK a "favourable deal" as part of leaving the EU has never even entered your mind, has it? Pfft. It crossed a lot of Leavers' minds, I assure you. People who took an interest in the subject knew this.

    People who wanted to leave the EU but knew nothing of the subject matter - if such folk existed - voted to Leave. They did not have to pass a test in order to vote. They voted for whatever reasons they had. They may well have thought that leaving would be painless but if they thought that, they must have been tuning out the Remainder Project Fear to an astonishing degree. Or do you deny that the Government, in concert with, oh, every TV channel, newspaper and every talking head in the country, ran a high profile campaign of "Leaving the EU means Disaster".

    By the way, did you get one of those millions of pre-Ref leaflets sent out by the Government? I gather quite a few households did.

    The idea that the Leave vote was largely made up of people who believed a slogan on the side of a bus is laughable. Seriously, I can scarcely summon sufficient scorn for this proposition. I look forward to seeing your evidence in support of the contention that the bus swayed more than twelve in-breds from East Anglia. The take-away message from the bus was, "We would have more of our own money to spend on what Britons want to spend it on". Anyone believing we would spend £350M per week on the NHS is immune to any logical argument whatsoever. Statistically insignificant. Possibly incapable of holding a pencil with which to vote.

    No majority before the campaign? I welcome your evidence in support of that contention.

    You may start by providing the results of the earlier Brexit referendum that took place before the 2016 Brexit Referendum.
    Oh? There wasn't one? So you're relying on polls then? I see. Oh my.

    The terms Hard and Soft Brexit entered the conversation when Remainders wished to muddy the waters. They used this tactic as a means of creating a "Brexit" option which was, effectively, "Remain". It fooled no one who was taking an interest in the process and who wanted to actually leave the EU.

    Remember - "a little bit in the EU" is *in the EU*. The only way to be out of the EU is *all the way out*.

    We can see "Soft Brexit 2.0" in the ashes of MayBot's horrible, treasonous "Withdrawal Agreement". Thank Goat for Gina Miller, without her and without Parliament voting it down, we would have been stuck in that Hell until we gave up and rejoined the EU. Could still happen, one way or another, I guess.
     
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  7. technicians.
     
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  8. plenty, but i'v not learned it from the msm.
    we are v,lucky at the mo in respect to us having three differnt govs running england, wales and gods country in devolved areas. but only one has unlimited resources and sets the budget for the other two. eveything is comparible. your gov is running down your services and priming them for privitisation as and where possible
     
  9. fin, under the scottish nhs, are people still dying younger than in other part of the uk ? asking for a friend :thinkingface:
     
  10. yip, poverty's a killer init?.
     
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  11. I think you will find the 350million bus slogan is considered one of the most quoted slogans of the Leave campaign. Indeed it is you that brought it up here, not me.

    Norway style agreement & Canada++ were strongly promoted. You can deny that that many people who voted Leave wanted those options exercised but you have no evidence or even strong arguement to support that reasoning. Presumably the people running the Leave campaigns were broadly intelligent, why would they have persisted with these ideas if they were known to be unappealing to voters? Simple answer is they would not have done so.

    If 95% of all leave votes cast were actually a vote for immediate quitting of the EU /trade WTO rules, Remain would have carried the day.
     
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  12. :thinkingface:
     
  13. yeah!
     
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  14. aye, that does appear to be the privaling attitude. heven forbid i start posting on the what have you done today thread. anyway, enough about me, lets hear somthing from you lot, ferk knows we dont here enough about that :rolleyes:
    *finger* :upyeah:
     
    #22234 finm, Jan 16, 2019
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  15. why is it so interesting?. this forum represents a minority out there. that should be obvious.
    and besides, how well equiped are you when it comes to admitting you are wrong?
     
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  16. A Brexit you mean, what we voted for. Not hard, just a Brexit with WTO and no ‘forced’ ties :)
     
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  17. Yes he was wrong, with the word ‘hard’ :):upyeah:
     
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  18. They ask different questions - but it is getting confusing: just start another with the poll?
     
  19. Yes, with no ongoing commitment nor control by a European body without representation.
     
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  20. That will win..... ;)
     
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