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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. I suggest you bookmark that url @noobie - things could go either way and it might be you and other extremists at the hard-Brexit end that need it! Either way, let's hope sense prevails and Teddy doesn't get thrown out of the cot
     


  2. Woeful. Thanks for cementing my opinion of JOB.

    JOB serves no useful purpose whatsoever. He could do, if he decided to allow listeners sufficient time to listen to his guest but he prefers to speak. As it is, he made JRM look good.

    However, I can see how an undiscerning listener might be cheerleading for O'Brien. Putting the posh bloke in his place - rock on! Dreadful.
     
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  3. Oh blimey ...
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  4. No he didn't - he was just an obnoxious bully that is all :) you seem to admire him :thinkingface:
     
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  5. Of the few occasions I have listened to JOB, I do not think I have heard him quite so flustered as he was with JRM. He hated getting matched, could you hear that?

    Full credit though to JOB, he flustered JRM just as much. A triumph of style over content but still ...

    That's what we need in the Brexit debate: bollocks to rational discussion, we need fluster!
     
  6. FFS, really - do you believe that crap - now go back and answer my question you read earlier - oh, you can't can you :yum
     
  7. In the end, what need has any large British business for a *British* government?

    As long as a comfy status quo is maintained, who cares where in the World laws are made and who enforces them?

    And who cares what SME businesses think anyway? Fuck 'em!
     
  8. Just a thought but they’re predominantly supermarkets, if they suffer will we see more smaller local green grocers, butchers shops etc thriving ?
     
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  9. No, because they are lying cvnts :blush:
     
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  10. Shame, I don’t like supermarkets
     
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  11. It’s only nuanced for those that need it to be more complicated than it actually is, because it helps justify their argument.

    But that’s how the EU and Ireland see it because that is what it is.
     
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  12. OK. It's all really a very simple situation. Got it. : o D
     
  13. Damn we lost says remainer one
    but they said leave or stay but what did leave mean says remainer two?
    I know they know what leave means but lets make up 99 variations of leave and then tell them they do not know what version they voted for, says remainer one
    excellent, do you think they will fall for it says remainer 2 ?
    Well you thought remain meant we should have another vote meaning people didn't vote in vote one didn't you? says remainer one
    True says remainer two

    That kinda a more complicated than it needs to be do you mean?
     
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  14. JRM did not on one occasion actually convincingly answer a question. He constantly deflected and avoided.

    What’s wrong with Brexiteers arguments ?

    Why can’t they just stick to logical arguments for their case?

    Why don’t they point out the extra cost of doing business with Europe has been more than mitigated by the realignment of our exchange rate with the Euro.

    Why don’t they point out that goods leaving bona fide business in Berlin to bona fide business in Birmingham, have never been intercepted regularly and that customs interventions at ports is intelligence lead?

    Why don’t they point out the obvious benefit of being able to subsidise strategically important industries like steel making? And extend that argument to food and farming. Brexiteers prefer to shout about cheap food and cheap shoes. Stupid argument.

    There are many positive reasons for Brexit but sadly having been spoon fed EU bad by newspapers with an agenda and which have no idea about the truth, that’s all most Brexiteers want to parrot back.

    On balance, still think it’s better to stay, not least because British Governments couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery.
     
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  15. That’s how the EU see it. They repeated it again in the weekend and they also said it’s still non negotiable. People who don’t listen can’t negotiate. Have you seen how bad that deal is?

    The GFA is our problem since we spent centuries fecking th me Irish over
     
  16. Wait? what? we are getting cheap shoes and food too? Bonus

    It's not our problem nor is it fecking the Irish over. We are steadfast in no hard border on our side, if there is to be any hard border, it will be on the Irish side and at the insistence of the eu.
     
  17. You are a Russian bot and I claim my £10.
     

  18. Am I missing something here, surely the leavers wouldn’t have pointed those things out as they are reasons to remain not leave ?
     
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