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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Glad you find that a benefit. The FX rate and better employment back in Poland is starting to make some impact. By coincidence (?) wages are jumping up.
     
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  2. Oh dear.
    Here's a picture of Ed Balls nutsack:

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  3. We have a few hundred at work - not heard of 1 that's leaving :thinkingface:
     
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  4. It's a non-binding amendment.
    The Article 50 Act or whatever it is clearly states that in the event of no agreement being reached the UK leaves regardless on the 29th March 2019.
    If parliament wishes to change that,then another statute has to be passed or some other old nonsense to overcome the first one.
    And other amendments tonight showed that a good number of MPs are reluctant to do anything that openly goes against the Referendum result,so it remains to be seen whether they would support something that does.
     
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  5. I have heard/seen media reports suggesting that more Poles are leaving but hard to find real figures, certainly only a very marginal change I suspect:
    One of the biggest changes is among workers of the ‘A8’ EU countries—mainly central European countries which joined the EU in 2004, like Poland and the Czech Republic. Figures suggest their numbers have started to fall.
    This slowdown actually started before the referendum: worker growth in 2016 before the referendum was less than half what it was in 2015.
     
  6. I fervently hope we leave with a future of trading on WTO terms.
    We then have up to ten years of nothing ,(with regard to trading with the EU),changing.
    And ten years is more than long enough to negotiate a mutually beneficial trade deal with the EU,(should they want one).
    That assumes the EU will still exist for the next ten years.
    And looking at the populist movements growing in France,Germany etc,I don't think it will.
     
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  7. I think 64% of the population would also agree
     
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  8. [​IMG]
     
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  9. hmm two and a half years debating what?.
    anyways, as yon other delicate yin said just a few post before you, its all symbolic. think about that.
     
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  10. all kind of fly's in the face of to many immigrants around driving wages down. no?
     
  11. You've sort of lost me here. I don't know what you are getting at so don't treat what I say below as any attempt at refutation, it is merely an observation based upon my best guess.

    The only current mishandling of citizens by the EU is currently going on in France, with the Yellow Jacket protests. I trust you are aware of this?

    Bloody Sunday happened. It's a disgrace, in common with many historical events. And based on the what is going on today in France, this kind of event is doomed to be repeated no matter what decisions we take. Or are you suggesting that remaining in the EU will ensure no further mistreatment of citizens by authoritarian governments?

    If you could stipulate what bad argument I made, I will respond.
     
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  12. Blackford last night made the most convincing argument I have ever heard in favour of Scottish Independence.

    The sooner I never have to listen to that pompous, moronic twatwaffle, the better. Effing Khant.
     
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  13. Tongue in cheek remark
     
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  14. You sure your not dukes second account?

    A few days ago sterling was at $1.27, this morning it's at $1.30, if that's tanking then please don't ever join the armed forces, your tank would be made of glass and sillyness.

    Return to violence? a few orchestrated events just within the last few days doesn't seem odd to you? get a grip.

    I don't know where you work but it is possible to like a boss but not agree with every single decision they make

    Get a grip man, the silly wobbly mania is seeking your attention from within
     
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  15. Be honest fin, Blackbird lost his shit last night and made himself and his party look like a bunch of nasty can't get their own way loons. He did a great diservice to the snp yesterday
     
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  16. You are blaming the EU for being the behind the mistreatment of the yellow jackets.

    Have citizens only been mistreated since the EU came into being?

    Catholic’s in Ireland for centuries
    The miners strike
    The 92 Liverpool fans
    Soldiers against the Red Clydesiders

    How many examples would you like?

    EU BAD!

    why do you continually undermine good arguments with bad ones? The yellow jackets in France were protesting at the French Government excercising it’s sovereignty on fuel duty. It had nothing to do with the EU.

    Tick Tock

    29/3 is looming. No deal in sight. 600 statutory instruments to be passed before leaving.

    Kirky says to stop running the U.K. down. I have no issue with the people, but our politicians are a shambles. Anyone who disputes that needs to a word with themselves

    Give me something to be positive about
     
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  17. Yep, he's been sniffing the morning star again, he's off :joy:
     
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  18. I really hope that WTO Article 24 can work to our favour but there are some issues:
    https://uktradeforum.net/2019/01/26...ticle-24-interim-agreement-are-a-red-herring/
     
  19. To be fair, whether it is mays deal, mays deal 2.0, wto/free trade or any other, there will be changes.

    We are unravelling 41 years of overly complicated and deliberately so, ways of doing things but many of the items would need doing whatever deal we have. I remember the change to decimilisation, some were convinced it was America's fault, some were convinced it was russia's fault and some shopkeepers looked at it as though it was Scottish money :D

    People despite liking changes when it suits them are uncomfortable with changes they are unsure of. In regards to the people of the U.K. and leaving the eu to stand on our own two feet again and what it means for the average brit? I'd feel confident in saying that a divorce or house move would have more direct impact than any changes by leaving the eu would have.
     
  20. Tongue in Project Fear remark :bucktooth:
     
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