British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Keep taking the tablets but lay off the Booze when taking them
     
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  2. Silly billy :blush:
     
  3. Erm, what again? :eyes:
     
  4. Hang on, the uk isn’t leaving the EU so people in England, Wales and Northern Ireland are EU citizens and can vote ?
    o_O:)
     
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  5. There used to be larger pallets called ships pallets, quite a bit larger, are they still in use, I hate them with a passion, I used to pick up bags of talk from Colchester docks, the bags were on ships pallets and the dockers wouldn't load them onto my lorry so I had to transfer 20 tons of talk from ships to standard pallets, when I had done that on my own they would lift them onto the lorry with there fork lift, talk is very slippy, gripping the bags was very difficult.
    Now breath.
    Steve
     
  6. What are we voting for by the way ?:)
     
  7. Brexit.png
     
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  8. that will be the snp causing the highland clearances this time round
     
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  9. Followed by Six month extension, May resigns, new leader = new deal which is "better" / everyone suddenly realises the only problem was May being awkward. UK enters Hotel California.
     
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  10. I think it will just be remain.

    Next GE could be interesting though.

    Green Party :thinkingface:
     
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  11. I think it might be very similar to Remain, but I expect it will start off being called something else...
     
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  12. "Just to be clear, Jacob Rees-Mogg has been saying for some time, "you can't just change the law ... we can't prevent the UK leaving the European Union on the basis of one debate."

    The European Union Withdrawal Act, (2018), which became law 26th June 2018, when the Queen signed the Royal Assent, states in section 13:

    "... if by Monday 21 January 2019, there is no agreement in principle in the negotiations on the substance of the withdrawal arrangements and the framework for the future relationship between the EU and the United Kingdom, the government must publish a statement setting out how the government proposes to proceed, and must arrange for debate about that in Parliament within days."

    In other words, the UK leaving the EU is already legally binding and will take place on 29th March at 11pm. The Government and opposition parties, having not been able to agree a satisfactory deal, only have time to meet privately to discuss, and publicly to debate, how the UK leaves, not when.


    Parliament can more easily debate significant amendments to the deal Theresa May's government has already put forward, than begin discussing anything completely new, such as another referendum or extension of Article 50. Something new, would have to pass throughseveral debates and readings, where any MP or member of the House or Lords, is permitted to attempt to add an amendment, all of which has to be voted on.

    Another referendum would be a new proposed Act of Parliament. As with any new proposal of legislation, it would have to pass through; be debated and voted on several times, by both the House of Commons and House of Lords, before it may become a Bill. Even then, in order to become a legally binding law, and be able to be acted upon, such as the EU Referendum Act (2015), and EU Withdrawal Act (2018), it must receive Royal Assent by the Queen.

    The process of making a law has always been deliberately procedural (slow) in order to ensure every consideration is taken. This is what Jacob Rees-Mogg has been doggedly attempting to explain to every media interviewer, in order to prevent the hysteria they are trying to create.

    If another law is to be agreed, in order to delay the UK's withdrawal from the EU, then the law it supersedes, has to be repealed, and this increases Parliament's debating time.

    If you are a Remain voter feeling upset about all this, and want someone to blame for demanding to have everything in writing and fully legal with regards Brexit, then think back to a certain lady, who in the Autumn of and Winter of 2016-17, caused a furore over taking the Government to court in order to ensure the UK's procedure of withdrawal would be legally binding.

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    Thank you.

    by John Gurney"
     
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  13. I've agreed to disagree.
    Saves an awful lot of time and effort. Especially as my effort will change nothing.
    See you on the other side!
     
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  14. Laughable. The whole of the world is wondering how more stupid the UK can make itself look.

    The Govt cannot Plan for no deal, businesses will decide if it works for them or not. If not they move elsewhere or pack up. I have no doubt many more wil come to the same conclusion as Honda. I wonder what talks Toyota and Nissan are currently having with the Japan Govt?
     
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  15. Wasn't Honda an EU driven exodus :thinkingface:
    What are your thoughts about all the UK's Euro pallets all disappearing on the 29th March :scream::scream::scream::scream::scream:
     
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