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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. why would they of had? they are selected by the uk gov.
     
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  2. The UK voters don't get to choose who the PM of the country is either. Or the UN representative Its not like this is an unusual practise.
     
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  3. Agreed, we don't vote them on.
     
  4. funny part of that guardian link I posted is that it was from June 2014 and this part stood out, 2014 remember

    As Labour joined the Tories and Liberal Democrats in rejecting Juncker's candidacy, Cameron claimed the attempt by the European parliament to install the former Luxembourg prime minister amounted to a power grab "through the back door".

    He called for a "consensual candidate" to be agreed in talks with Angela Merkel and his Swedish and Dutch counterparts – Fredrik Reinfeldt and Mark Rutte – at the Swedish prime minister's summer home in Harpsund.

    Reinfeldt, one of Cameron's closest allies in the European Union, said it was vital that the UK remained a member of the EU. Der Spiegel reported last week that Cameron had told Merkel at the recent EU summit Britain would be more likely to leave if Juncker were appointed European commission president.

    "It is of the utmost interest and importance to the rest of Europe that Britain stays in the EU," the Swedish prime minister said at the Harpsund meeting.

    The four EU leaders all have deep reservations about Juncker, a veteran EU fixer, who is seen by No 10 as embodying an out-of-touch EU elite. They are also uneasy at the way in which the European parliament devised the Spitzenkandidaten (lead candidate) system in which the main pan-European groups in the parliament nominated a candidate to head the European commission.

    In 2014 they were warning junker was part of the out of touch eu elite being slid in through the back door and it could lead to the U.K. leaving. It seems when it comes to listening to make the eu better and cure its faults, the eu continue to have their hearing aids out
     
  5. Sorry if I am being slow here,

    Each country puts forward a candidate for a commissioners post and then all the MEPs vote for the commissioners ?
     
  6. Hi Alan, here's the long version with all the detail:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Commission
     
  7. I think each country has a commissioner put forward by there own country, the commissioners then vote for the top jobs, such as Tusk, Junker and the others, other than our representatives vote we have no say.
     
  8. Bloody hell

    €22,367.04 per month each.

    That's €626,277.12 a month.
    :(
     
  9. That's about what a nurse earns a year
     
  10. Looks that way, i'm trying to work out if Junker etc are as well as the 28 or part of.
     
  11. Looks like he's one of them.

    Composition of theCommissioners
    President
    • The first Vice-President
    • The Vice‑President and High Representative for Foreign Policy and Security Policy
    • 4 Vice-Presidents
    • 21 Commissioners
     
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  12. The commissioners also get upto 65% of their pay (depending on years service) for a period of 3 years after they have left the roll even if they have another job they have literally left then slid in from minute one, this is called transitional pay

    When tusk was considering running for his current role as president of the european commission, he was prime minister of Poland earning around £48k in 2014. the jump from Polish prime minister to eu commissioner has his pay at 32,700 euros plus expenses, a month.
     
  13. I need to look at someting else before I explode I think.

    MEPs earn €8,484
    There are 751 of them.
    That's €6,371,484 a month

    add that to the €626,277 a month for the commissioners

    6,997,761
    a month.

    Not even going to consider their expenses.
     
  14. Bearing in mind the expenses scandal in the U.K. parliament that many, rightly so were outraged, we had accountability enforced

    However, in september of only last year, the mep's themselves voted to not provide any accountability or records for their 4,416 euro expenses a MONTH. A transparency group took the matter to an eu court and the court decided that the mep's privacy was more important than accountability, this enraged some meps who said that the eu is not listening when it comes to accountability

    read if you wish https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/25/mep-expenses-eu-court-ruling
     
  15. every year each MEP costs you less than a penny
     
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  16. I started to read it but it made me cry.
     
  17. The average UK MP claims between £150k and £200k some as high as £240k a year, most of which is claimed for staff wages.
     
  18. Thank you, that softens the blow somewhat.

    But can’t help thinking they’re earning about 7k a month, compared to what doctors nurses firemen police etc etc earn.
     
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