I realise that now Paul. My confusion stems from my ignore list: I literally cannot abide bigots and name callers who think they have the right to abuse others for having a different point of view,hence I sometimes see posts without knowing the reason it was written. I'm sure we are completely in agreement.
To revisit my query, if we “Disastrously” “Cliffedge” “Crash Out” of Brexit with “No Deal”, other than the WTO Rules, the UK Government would then get the money from the same tariffs on imports from the Rest of the World instead of the monies going to the EU coffers. The WTO rules would require that equivalent tariffs are also then placed on goods imported here from Europe, whereas those are presently tariffs free. By not being in the EU, the UK is able to adjust VAT levels to compensate some consumers and producers for increases in import tariff. By not being in the EU, the UK is also able to provide some assistance to producers adversely affected by new tariffs on goods exported from here to the EU. ALL OF THAT IS SUBJECT TO CONSTRAINTS AGREED IN TRADE AGREEMENTS, such as the one with the EU that they haven’t allowed us to begin discussing, and say they won’t discuss even after we leave until we have ratified the Withdrawal Agreement. The EU and Remainers here are continuing to stack up “insurmountable” problems to maintain an argument that we cannot leave as it’s “Too Hard” so can’t be done.
Coffer: 1.1. The funds or financial reserves of an organization. ‘there is not enough money in the coffers to finance the reforms’ https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/coffer
I always thought you should vote for the party that best represents what you believe is right for the country. I also have always thought that they rarely do what they said they would. But they should be representing the people that voted for them.
Revisionist nonsense. Just like unicorns. Have you seen people mention unicorns in this thread, despite there being no unicorns since the 14th Century?
I believe that I vote for the individual person who represents my opinions, but tempered by the realism that a vote for anyone other than one of the main parties is unlikely to achieve any of my aims other than a potential adolescent foot stamp.
MPs should not be representing the majority view of their constituencies where it conflicts with the result of a national referendum. Change my mind.
You’ll be telling me next that there are no Gold Reserves either, even though we’ve dropped the gold standard. And after that it’s only a short step to believing the bears don’t sh!t in the woods!
Coffers went out of fashion at the same time groats, villeins and the consent of the lord of the land. And bears do not shit in the green, dank woods of fair old England. Not for some time now.
Corbbyn stuck on a fence? Did someone jam a fence post somewhere high, out of sight and where the sun don't shine?
Yes. (I've omitted the term 'coffers' from your quote as it upsets Loz ) If the UK applies a WTO tariff on a product when importing it, other countries will apply the same tariff on the same good when exported from the UK to their country. But as the UK, on the whole, currently only imports what it can't produce it's not really going to export it so it becomes academic and the whole situation get's complicated as Antoneye said earlier. Also, it's with remembering that whilst goods coming into the UK from another EU state at present have a 0% tariff they had a tariff applied somewhere in order to get them into the EU unless they were wholly produced in the EU. Take Orange Juice for example; IIRC the EU applies a 16% tariff to imported orange juice in order to protect the Spanish orange growers thus although your breakfast Tropicana OJ may have come into the UK from Schipol airport at 0% tariff, there was a 16% tariff applied when it landed in Holland from Florida. Yes, but unlikely as it would a)reduce tax take for the Govt and b) make VAT rules even more complex and thus open to fraud which reduces the Govt tax take. ....from here to the EU, or any country. Yes, and this is where a sensible Govt would/should do something to assist indigenous producers. Yes, in agreements yet to be agreed but as there would be no agreement in the event of a 'hard' brexit, there would be minimal constraints at first IMO. It would appear so, yes. This post is becoming too long, eye candy time. lifted from someone else - thanks.
No matter what people think of her, she wasn't daft - and would have walked all over the EU council in negotiations - none of this crap we have ended up with, and there would have been no Remoaners either, that would have been nipped in the bud with decisive early action
Brexit is a shit idea. Whatever way you look at it, most people will be worse off. If WTO tariffs were introduced in full the rate of inflation in the UK would be well into double figures on the tariffs alone.
