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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Noob the Tories are more Pro Leave than any other party represented in the local elections. If that means they are 50% more Pro Leave than for example Labour, they are still the most Pro Leave party. They also lost the most seats. The weak useless no one ever votes for parties which were all strongly Remain did well for weak useless parties that no one ever votes for...
     
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  2. Let me show you why you are a spanner 749er :D

    I said, with the key words being underlined

    You then said

    I pointed out I had never said the underlined in your quote but you insist I had even though time and time again, I have copy and pasted what I had actually said.

    749er you display the reading ability of a legal assistant ambulance chasing ppi office assistant and perhaps if you read what was said, rather than what you wanted it to say, you might not get it wrong so many times. Nowhere have I said as you claim, pucker up sweet cheeks, have it up ya:joy:
     
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  4. 39abbb1f85922068df455e666dd1b11f.3.jpg Dukey .jpg
     
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  5. Hard to beat a good country lass

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  6. oh dear, oh dear.


    Lib dems, (who de fek?) take BIG slices out of Cons?labour.




    I wonder why....is it because they are so electable???? lol


    hmmm.

    Methinks maybe cons are 50/50 fucktards and Corbyn a no hoper.



    Ah well. I am sure Noobster et al will be a long soon to remind us all about DEMOCRACY.
     
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  7. Have you been on the lambrini early jb?
     
  8. Nope.



    Cheap red wine.



    then cheap beer.



    benefits of EU.


    o_O
     
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  9. Unbelievable

    It happened in my city in my grandparents lifetime- I don’t need weblinks to know the truth

    You ever been to Glasgow?

    Let me know when mayor Khan or any other civilian can order soldiers into in London
     
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  10. Which part, you claiming I had said something even though every post shows I had not, or your inability to understand it? Pray tell
     
  11. 'Now Mrs Exige, these are the sizes of fake bollocks we have available for Mr Ex. Should be a big improvement'
     
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  12. Titty bollocks, your first good political idea ever dude :eek: v. well done indeed :bucktooth:
     
  13. yip, somebody is looking like a spanner...
    tbf, i could of read it like that at first glance. i;v taken to glazing over after a sentence or two too. tho striking for the start of the 40 week and the reaction by the authorities to it, possibly the first in the uk? is. maybe a lil less trivial than suggested by yer self.
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    great result for the bexiteers tonight. no?
    btw, DP tooooo big.
     
  14. Fin, you need to help him with some of your wisdom :D

    Fantastic result for the brexiteers, the amount of spoilt papers mostly with "brexit", "traitors" or "non of the above"written on them was something like 18 times the usual spoiled numbers.

    All sides must be dreading the eu elections. I wonder now if both sides will approve the bad chequers deal rather than face another kick in the teeth?

    I bet you were glad to see Ruthie back today ?
     
  15. no need, i think we are on the same page when it comes to the glazing over thing.
    meh, fuck knows. not my problem.
    yes. i forgot how badly she copes when put under pressure.
    all good.
     
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  16. When examining the results of the Local Elections, are folks taking into account:

    Tories were at a high-water point in terms of seats prior to this election and expected to lose some seats (but 1335? Really?)
    Labour were at a low ebb prior to this election, should have icked up seats.
    LibDibs almost eradicated in the previous election for their Tory Coalition government sins, some gains were to be expected.
    There was no Brexit Party to vote for.
    UKIP brand slightly toxic due to Batten and links to Tommy Robinson (not his real name).
    Extraordinary numbers of spoiled ballots.

    If your analysis isn't accounting for any of this and consists of "LibDibs win big, guess people no longer wish to Brexit" ... I sincerely hope you never learn just how hard I am laughing at you right now.
     
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  17. Agreed Loz.

    Before accepting the argument put forward by some others here that voters have switched their support to Remain candidates from the two main parties, has anyone seen a breakdown of the BREXIT view of the 1179 ‘Others’ councillors as that was an increase of 662: nearly as many as the Lib Dem increase of 703 councillors?

    Personally I was offered limited options to express distaste with the main parties as my ballot paper gave the option to put three crosses against a list of 1 Labour, 2 Lib Dem’s and 3 Conservatives. There were no other candidates.
     
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  18. Tits like coconuts............





    ......and sparrows like breadcrumbs.
     
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  19. More contributions to this thread, please!

    Don't forget to bring both faces!
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    When examining the results of the Local Elections, are folks taking into account:

    Tories were at a high-water point in terms of seats prior to this election and expected to lose some seats (but 1335? Really?)
    Labour were at a low ebb prior to this election, should have icked up seats.
    LibDibs almost eradicated in the previous election for their Tory Coalition government sins, some gains were to be expected.
    There was no Brexit Party to vote for.
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    from 95% of the seats to 60% of the seats was a win for the ruth davidson party!.
    yip, i have seen you and other argue this.
    in one respect i agree tho. in a FPTP system the results dont mean jack.
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    No amount of spinning can make out that unmitigated disaster is better than expected, or not really an epic kick in the teeth. But then there’s spinning, and then there’s a statement from Theresa May. Spinning a result is at least based in reality. It’s warped. It’s cherry picking. It’s highly misleading. But lurking at its core is some sense of what really happened. Theresa May just ignores reality in favour of the voices in her head. If you want to know in which universe voting for pro-remain parties really means that people want Parliament to deliver Brexit now you know. It’s the universe in Theresa May’s head.

    It’s not just Theresa May. Jeremy Corbyn’s spokesapologists are also declaring confidently that an increase of 676 seats for the strongly remain Lib Dems, and an increase of 185 for the equally strongly remain Greens really means that people just want Westminster to get on with delivering Brexit. Labour didn’t do well in these elections either, even though they didn’t do as badly as the Conservatives. But that’s like saying that someone who was blown into a thousand pieces in a nuclear war did better than someone who was vaporised.

    At this point in the electoral cycle, if it is to have a realistic chance of forming the next government the official opposition ought to be running rings around the governing party. Those 1265 seats which the Conservatives lost ought to have gone largely to Labour. But they didn’t. Labour managed to end up with a net loss of 63 seats and lost control of some councils it had previously run.
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    using PR, The 2017 Scottish local elections were held on Thursday 4 May, in all 32 local authorities. where 5-6 candidates is the norm, The pro remain SNP retained its position as the largest party in terms of votes and councilors.
    yet
    Fresh from pretending that an epic defeat was really a vindication of her career, Theresa went on a wee tour of the devolved bits. Or more precisely the Welsh and Scottish Conservative conferences. The Scottish conference was held in Aberdeen, where despite the best efforts of party managers and a sympathetic media to choose flattering camera angles, it looked like there were about 200 people in attendance. Although to be fair at least a handful of them were under the age of 80. The Prime Minister completely ignored the results of the English election, and concentrated on slagging off the SNP as though she possessed some moral or political authority to do so. She’s got so delusional that thinking that Ruth Davidson has a realistic chance of becoming the next Scottish First Minister counts as a serious intervention.

    The Tories hope that Ruth is going to save them, but their difficulties can’t be solved by cheeky photo ops alongside farmside animals, and neither can the problems that beset British politics. Over six million people signed a petition, over a million people have marched against Brexit, 100,000 are expected to march tomorrow in favour of Scottish independence, the pro-Brexit parties have been utterly hammered in an election, but still they tell us that we want Brexit to be delivered.
    We have a government which insists that it isn’t out of touch, it’s the people who are wrong.
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    tbh, i aint that surprised when i read the attitudes expressed on here when this, is what is projected as the best we can ever be in scottish politics to rUK. (poor sound quality)
    https://twitter.com/mstewart_23/status/1124230708388610048
    and believe it or not, Cameron was gonna make her, defense secretory.
    According to the Guardian, the then Prime Minister was ready to whisk the Scottish Tory leader off to the House of Lords and have her join his cabinet.

    The only complication was that he had to win the Brexit referendum first.

    When the country voted to leave, Cameron handed his notice in, eventually passing the keys to Number 10 over to Theresa May.

    The paper says the plan was for Davidson to eventually “do a Douglas-Home” and move to the Commons – as Harold Macmillan’s successor, the Earl of Home, had done in 1963.

    Davidson would remain in the government, renounce her peerage, and be fast-tracked into a safe Commons seat.

    There would be a by-election, and she would then be in the Commons, become leader and crush the ambition of Boris Johnson.
    and more worryingly, that is doable in British politics. but could she of been any worse than this?
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    a comment from a herald jurno
    I appreciate this might be an unppopular stance, but, I looked-up Williamson’s profile. He went to a comprehensive school in Scarborough, then on to the University of Bradford.

    Therefore, by definition he: “Isn’t one of us.” Not a public schoolboy, not Oxbridge, not a Bullingdon Boy.

    OK, he could still have done it, but, lacked the support network or the belief, ingrained into him over the generations: rules don’t apply to me, or the similarly ingrained ability to do what he likes and not worry about the consequences – consequences being for the little people.
    So, what I am saying is, perhaps he didn’t do it, but, one of the ruling elite, well-versed in nefarious political practices did it and hid.

    We are dealing with Toerags here, anything is possible.
     
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