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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. dead easy, they where elected to go there. and they turned up for work too.
    if you had any idea how barnet worked, you would know, to win extra resources, you have to raise awareness and secure extra funding in england first.
     
  2. Okay I'll put this to you fin and el

    (1) is montieth doing anything illegal, against either U.K. or eu parliamentry standards, rules or laws or regulations?
    (2) are there any other uk meps that live in the eu because for you both to feel outraged, you must be both sure that every uk mep commutes every single day
    (3) did either of you notice he had already started to move back to the U.K. before you both became headline faux echo chamber outraged?
     
  3. that ^ is the definion of hypocrisy.
     
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  4. Fin you again avoid answering the question because you know you can't without sounding like a rabbid losing loon. A bloke who is returning to the U.K. is offered a job that he knows full well, may only last to November. If he is successfull in that job his life will have changes in too, the same as every other brit

    And jb, this is where some of the more vocal remainers have the biggest sheep issue

    Leavers are able to see the people of europe and the countries of europe as different things to the eu managment company, eu project. This is why you will see funnily enough more likely from leavers, we love europe, love europeans just don't like the eu project

    but because some extreme remainers are all or nothing on european appreciation, they struggle and that is there downfall.
     
  5. *nope.

    when your freedom of movement is denied along with average Joe, but the rich and powerful continue to enjoy those freedoms?
    A one vision Beexit, will no room for flexibility. You are a sheep. o_O
     
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  6. So lets say we go clean break/wto&free trade are you saying that we will never be allowed to travel to and into europe or holiday or work in europe in any way at all? Think seriously now
     
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  7. Think seriously about how Brexit has been promoted and the 'benefits' and intention of stopping freedom of movement.

    If implemented you are saying we will continue to have full access once you stop EU access?

    Think carefully now....
     
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  8. 'Lets say we go clean break/wto ... ' are you implying there is an option to do otherwise now? Brexiteers have so little faith ;)

    But seriously freedom to travel and indeed work for an individual was/is never under threat.
     
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  9. I'd rather you stop avoiding questions by asking them as is the norm for some remainers when they see their weak argument fail, but I'll answer yours anyway.

    Of course you will have full access and the ability to move freely within the eu, you may have to carry a passport or a visa but your ability to move around and gain employment will not be impeded as long as you meet their rules.

    think on it for a moment, if you were right and I was wrong, no one in the entire eu could live, work and travel freely unless they were from eu countries and yet you have people living, working and travelling all over europe from America to Asia, Russia to Rwanda, Columbia to Canada etc etc
     
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  10. I see the difference as being that one is the right to go to that country whereas the other is the right to ask to go to that country.

    Half the issues we have now are people thinking they should have the right to everything now. Rights should be a privilege though.
     
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  11. You are not making any sense at all - Brexit doesn't mean 'not allowed to travel to Europe' or indeed not allowed to have a holiday home or home their - quite dumbfounding really - my wife will still be visiting from Czech 3 or 4 times a year for weeks on end :worried: so I'm sure I will be allowed to Europe.
    EUROPE IS NOT EU :bucktooth:
     
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  12. Indeed, my wife is privileged :(
     
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  13. I feel after parliament refused to act upon the peoples vote, they wasted 3 years that could have been clean break with the 2 years used positivley to reduce the impact on both sides. The eu saw we had an enemy within in parliament so gave the bare minimum. Should we now go clean break in October I think it would be prudent to name a date to leave and use that time wisely with the eu to still try to reduce impact for both sides

    and yes, the loss of freedoms were a fakery of project fear
     
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  14. Combination of things on that fin, a prime minister who was always a remainer and a house of parliament and lords that spent the last three years telling the people that democractic votes by the people are no longer applicable and they refuse to enact upon them
     
  15. I've just heard someone say, "If you add all the losers votes together, they actually won." :laughing:

    He was taking the piss, but it shows the nonsense of their delusion.
     
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  16. you have no proof that she is a remainer bar a cross in a box by sombody nobody trusts.
    she was a brexiteer.
    yip, spent the last three years attempting to deliver what the leading brexiteers always knew was undeliverable
     
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  17. I disagree fin. She knew last July when she tried to sell the leaving deal the eu gave her to sell us at chequers, that the offer was "what level of remain do you want" Even remainers knew it was and remains, worse than the deal we currently have. That is why she was so desperate to stick to the same deal at every stage because it left us being run by the eu

    It has always been deliverable had they wished it to have been. The idea once you are in the eu, you can never leave contradicts it's own rules through article 50. The idea the 5th largest or even 25th largest economy in the world could not manage on earth without the eu management project team is pure nonsense.
     
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