the need for chloronation and the poor working standards for the emplyees are not a distraction tho. considering thats who we will be competing with
Isn't that one of the reasons for Brexit - get rid of these eastern Europeans Herbert's with their poor standards and getting less than minimum wage?
aye it is, watching the lack of debunking going on from yer bum chum from the sites i use. here for yah. i will keep you right.
Separate argument though, ethics. I mean, most of us are wearing clothes from China, India, Taiwan etc But we are not up in arms about it. The wooden mills are long gone... We already cannot compete. * The bigger picture though is that * protectionism *is part of the West’s capitalist system. The very system we slate the EU for, is the one that prevails in the US as well as Europe. Squeezing every last bit of profit from product, by sourcing cheap from overseas, makes a limited few rich. At the expense of jobs. Progress, lack of investment in favour of short term returns, it’s all connected. It isn’t possible to be both in and out of the system.
yip. nothing to argue against there. but, theres always a but. i dont think anti capatalisem is gonna go v,far if those that want to change it are fragmented.
Greed =/= Capitalism Capitalism can just as easily be represented as "the ability of consumers to freely choose from a variety of suppliers in order to source purchases locally for ethical reasons". The fact the consumers seek the smallest price for a given product is not a feature of capitalism - it is, in part, a feature of greed. OK, seeking cheapness can be a feature of necessity as well as greed, but if I may just blow your minds a moment - 4K UHD TVs and the latest smartphone models are not necessities. Capitalism is flexible - it could promote ethical standards or it can promote greed. Or a mixture of both. Socialism is inflexible - it promotes lack of choice whilst doing very little to reduce the effect that greed has on an economy. TL;DR - it's down to people to change things. Do stuff to make the changes you want to see. Don't wait for Gubmint to make you do it (they'll cock it up anyway)
hmm, our family bussness was just one of many small to medium sized bussness that contracted and subcontracted to concill and nationalised industrys. untill the thatch. there can be a balance that can be achved. if the will is there.
Those are two different things. We even wash children and old people in chlorine but tell them it's healthy because it's called swimming If some were honest, 5 million brits going on holiday to the u.s. and I bet most of them if they get food poisoning from chicken, will not be from the states but more likely a beered up "bbq specialist" relative undercooking chicken at a family get together. Poor working standards as JB says, even as we type, we seem to not worry about those chinese geo camps supplying all our electrical, mobile and internet enablers. so again the current furore can be answered in two sentences, but but but it's Trump and but but but it's Amerika
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46951855 https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/26/horsemeat-trial-shines-light-international-fraud
Its not about us consuming chlorine. Its about the health of the chickens, the condition of the factories and the production line, relying too heavily on chlorination to save the day.
Its about the health of the chickens They get killed to be on my plate, I can't see how healthy that is for them no matter where they come from? the condition of the factories and the production line And this as someone mentioned earlier shows the double standard. I don't see anyone objecting to chickens from america, trying to ban electronics, smart phones, laptops, fridges, 55 inch tv's made in poke hole countries that have little to no union representation or even human rights and are forced into corperate factories where they live every minute, to supply the same complainers with their latest gadgetry relying too heavily on chlorination to save the day. and yet, you probably drink more chlorine from your tap, swimming pool, eu approved fruit, nuts and mixed bag salads
You are talking gobbledibolox as usual. You should start with a healthy chicken, one that has no disease. The condition of the production lines refers to the chicken getting infected with stuff you would rather not eat after it enters the factory. The fact that chlorination is not a guarantee means the process needs to be in tip top shape from start to finish. The stuff about TVs and salads vs meat is not even worth responding to. Sounds like you are ok with a rancid product going into a production line that doesn't give a fuck because the chlorine will get most of the shit off anyway, so it doesn't really matter. Is this your Sunday roast?
ah, a two wrongs make right argument. noob. coolio. i guess food and drink dont play a large part of the ecconomy in the areas that voted for brexit
