There was a Deal. Which might have got through Parliament, or might not. But certainly it was the ERG who totally trashed it - rejected it out of hand. Of course, Remainers didn’t like the deal either. In fact, nobody likes it
I think this is the point some remainers are struggling with. We are not seeking to be as big as the eu or seeking to beat them, we just want to do our own thing, in our own way and in a way that is more sustainable.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I didn’t think there was much support for the deal at all. Was it just the ERG - I didn’t think Labour or others supported it ? Edit. Sorry read your post properly now. No, nobody liked it, why single out the ERG ?
Ish, the erg saw the chequers deal for what it was, a worse deal than we had and tied us to the eu with no power to escape, negotiate outside the eu and many other things. The chequers deal was also widely refused by the remain side also for similar reasons, if I remember, it was the biggest anti vote of any kind 432 no to 202 yes true that but largely because remain politicians refuse to act on a peoples majority democratic vote.
But even the Brexiters didn’t support her deal. Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s a bad idea in the first place but more importantly it’s been atrociously managed and executed.
No there isn’t, which makes leaving harder I think. We should all agree on the poor management and execution. Don’t vote. Don’t give them media coverage. If we ignore them long enough they might go away.
‘The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing’. Edmund Burke, or someone on the inter web.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexit/brexit-michael-gove-admits-farmers-may-never-recover-from-no-deal/ar-BBTNz25
From February, before the EU’s current deal that isn’t good for farmers. Perhaps the headline should be Farmers may never recover whatever happens.
Well, couple of things first then I'll lead into that if it's okay? Think of the eu membership as the same as your bike insurance, sky package, virgin media packeage etc, you get the drift. Year on year the company/management company (in this case our management company is the eu project), keeps putting up the fee's, keeps expecting more from the biggest payers but keeps taking channels out of your package or removes things from what you had before so you have less and less control and the company forgets you pay them and not the other way around. Pretty much most of us would shop around, change companies, refuse to accept poor service etc etc. In the case of the eu, we do have choices, as do the other 165 countries not in the eu. Now if there were only 28 countries in the world and we were one and we wanted to leave, I could understand but 165 examples where NOT being in the eu, is not a problem. I found it funny in the campaign when brexiteers were being called little englanders and wanting to go back to the old days of empire. I found it funny because all four of the nations had substantial members wanting to leave and not just england but more that those saying we wanted to go back to the old empire, which we do not, are being told this by people who want to hold onto the eu empire, the little europeans I'll come back to this in a lil while as visitors have just turned up.
