British Indy: What Happens Now?

Business will do what is right for them, their profits and their shareholders.

We will see what Nissan decide. I wonder what their major shareholder will say?

 

WEEKLY UK PAYMENT TO THE EU would pay for:
Annual salary for 1666 Nurses basic pay
Annual salary for 1842 Police Constables basic pay
Between 3.6 and 4.8 hospitals,based on Northumbria Specialist Emergency Care Hospital
Send 2187 Students to Oxford for a year
Build between 10 and 17 1300 pupil comprehensive schools.
And the annual figure of £13 billion would employ 520,000 workers on 25 grand a year,(if my arithmetic is correct).
This assumes the gross figure before we get the rebate to spend on what the EU wants the UK to spend it on.
But feel free to reduce it be whatever amount you think will match the net UK payment,either way I promise you a pound to a pinch of shit that if the mainstream media had informed the UK electorate like this the Leave vote would have been much higher.
If you are one of those who don't give two fucks about those at the bottom of the economic pile,the ones who suffer from the most crime or who wait in line the longest at A+E,or you don't give a shit whether some decent,hard-working people can afford a reasonable house to bring their sprogs up in,then no amount of evidence will convince you.
But these are the facts,take them or leave them.

From FullFact.com
The UK pays more into the EU budget than it gets back.
In 2015 the UK government paid £13 billion to the EU budget, and EU spending on the UK was £4.5 billion. So the UK’s ‘net contribution’ was estimated at about £8.5 billion.

Each year the UK gets an instant discount on its contributions to the EU—the ‘rebate’—worth almost £5 billion last year. Without it the UK would have been liable for £18 billion in contributions.

send to Brussels" this higher figure of £18 billion, or anything equivalent per week or per day. The rebate is applied straight away, so the UK never contributes this much.

The UK’s contributions to the budget vary from year to year. They’ve been larger recently than in previous decades.



A membership fee isn’t the same as the economic cost or benefit

Being in the EU costs money but does it also create trade, jobs and investment that are worth more?

We can be pretty sure about how much cash we put in, but it’s far harder to be sure about how much, if anything, comes back in economic benefits. “There is no definitive study of the economic impact of the UK’s EU membership or the costs and benefits of withdrawal”, as the House of Commons Library says.

£55 million a day doesn't include the rebate and is not based on recommended figures

The claim that the UK’s membership fee is £55 million a day comes from the £20 billion annual UK payment to EU institutions listed in the Office for National Statistics' (ONS) Pink Book.

The ONS told us this isn’t the correct figure to use. It has another set of figureswhich actually represent official government payments, although this isn’t clear from the release.

The £20 billion figure includes payments to EU institutions by UK households, and so doesn’t represent what the government pays as a ‘membership fee’.

The Treasury has more up to date estimates than the ONS, and uses slightly different accounting methods. They show we paid in £13 billion in 2015.

We previously said that “it's reasonable to describe £55 million as our ‘membership fee’, but it ignores the fact that we get money back as well.”

This was based on the understanding that the rebate is paid up front and then sent back, which we now know is wrong.

£350 million a week doesn’t include the rebate but uses better figures

It’s also been claimed that we send £350 million a week to the EU. That also misses out the rebate, although is based on better figures for the UK’s contributions.

 

doh! i guess thats why they could afford to invest in the southwest, north and north west. for the last 40years. yip loz and exe are right. politics. not for me.

 

Once you wipe away mostly the media stirring up division, what you are looking at is both sides looking for a win win. This will be incredibly easy I feel.

The hardest part as I mentioned earlier, was Europe accepts we are leaving but want's to do enough to stop other country from doing it. Why is this important and beneficial? They need our help to do this and some good old fashioned horse bartering and nudge nudge wink wink diplomacy will happen.

Again, France and Germany have national elections next year, much of what comes from the EU is posturing but the real power, Germany, knows a friendship of some kind is better than none.

 

Therein is the crux of the problem for both. The EU can offer no more than Switzerland and Norway have when it comes to a UK deal.

Its not in the interests of the European Union to do so and its not in Germany's interests to see the EU break up.

Germany's interests within the EU will be stronger than they are to the UK.

 

really? i call it wishful thinking.
it wasnt that long ago, two years ago i think it was, Westminster wasn't going to trade with Scotland despite us being your forth biggest market. who should i believe?
i guess now that you guys have it all under control i should just shut up and put my faith in fluffy, bojo and co to do the right thing. Nicola, let it go. may is on our side.
haha haha haha ha ha. :smileys:
loz. you've changed.

 

it was a bit of a trick question. and yer right none of them. well, none of your lot anyhoo. one seat in scotland with a majority of 796 votes despite spending three times as much as the next candidate. i dont think may has to worry to much what we think unless we hit her with the big one.
now THAT loz is politics.

 

yip. see you have your ear defenders on. no need for a blinkered emoji. i know already. :Cigar:

 

the latest is 9 years to full brexit dream,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, omg, you can surely see why it is called a dream,,,, you would have to be asleep to believe it !!

 

:Angelic::smileys:

 

Its all ok though because the UK has taken back total control.

The pound is worth jackshit

Big multinational businesses are making plans to leave

But we have total control.:disappointed:

 

The economics experts in the financial markets can't reverse fast enough.....
The U.K. economy grew faster than economists forecast in the third quarter, with services single-handedly ensuring resilience against any Brexit fallout.
The 0.5 percent expansion was better than the 0.3 percent median forecast of economists in a Bloomberg survey.
And then:
Nissan Will Build New Models In the U.K., Securing 7,000 Jobs - Bloomberg