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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Despite what you read from Noobie and the Daily Mail, it is a Democratic organisation and it needs to pass a vote. The Irish Parliament has voted against it

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....ejects-eu-mercosur-deal-in-symbolic-vote/amp/

    The import tariff on South American beef entering the EU will be reduced to 7.5%.
     
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  2. I don't read the Daily Mail.

    Not disagreeing with what you are saying, hopefully the mercosur deal wont be ratified.

    My point about the Eu is the similarities to the Trade unions, they started off 'for the people' and did a lot of good, eventually though they became all about the Unions and their power and weren't necessarily doing what was best for their members. I think this is where the Eu is going.
     
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  3. Black people in Italy are 13 times more likely to experience housing discrimination than black people in the UK. In France and Germany they are twice as likely to experience general discrimination in a year as in the UK.
    https://fra.europa.eu/sites/default/files/fra_uploads/fra-2018-being-black-in-the-eu_en.pdf


    Austerity was motivated by the EU Stability and Growth Pact and was sanctioned by Vince Cable in 2010.
    https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201719/cmselect/cmeuleg/301-ix/30113.htm

    The economic predictions for what might happen after the Referendum and for what might happen after a “No Deal” Brexit have entirely different foundations. The predictions for the period after the Referendum were based on uncertainty for 2 years that would be cleared up by Brexit, the predictions for after “No Deal” cover a 15 year period after Brexit happens and are largely based on lowered population growth which does not affect individual wealth although it lowers total GDP. The post Referendum predictions are now known to be false and the No Deal predictions hold no fear for anyone who has understood them
    The Bank of England clearly stated that its scenario for a “No Deal” Brexit was NOT a “prediction”. It was a worst case that, interestingly, was less severe than the normal worst case scenario for annual stress testing of banks.

    http://www.dailyglobe.co.uk/comment/imf-and-treasury-predicted-wto-brexit-will-be-fine/


    The 5 President’s report and the preambles to the Treaties on European Union make it clear that the destination of the EU is a single state (with the corollary of nations as regions).


    The “shared competences”, those areas of government that are shared between the UK and EU are actually powers delegated by the EU to the UK and cover much of government – see EU Control. The EU can withdraw these delegated powers and assert control without the need for referendums.

    The Remain campaign, including Peoples Vote is, and has always been, run by the European Movement, a shady body financed by Multinational Corporations, EU Governments and the EU. See The Funding of StrongerIN and Who is paying for Peoples Vote.
     
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  4. may wasn
    allan, where you aware that it was the torys that where the big promotors of ttip?
     
  5. I wasn't. I haven't read that much about it, I did have a little look at the history of it - didn't realise that the talks started as early as the 1990's, stalled but were resurrected in early 2000's by Merkel.

    Out of interest, how should or could that change my view of the EU ?

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    don't get me wrong I am not a fan of the Tories.
     
  6. Alan are you a sophophile ?
     
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  7. A sesquipedalian comment if ever I saw one.
     
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  8. because it was a dodgy deal allan. and seen as such. who will veto a similar deal being foisted on us now as we grub around looking for deals in a wekened position
     
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  9. err...

    Am I ?

    (was going to google that but a bit worried about the results I might get)
     
  10. From the Greek: a lover of wisdom.
     
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  11. Good point. Need to think about that.
     
  12. @finm

    I think the thing is, whatever the UK does the people can do little about it, being a member of a union is all well and good, but what should you do when that union stops working for you and is only concerned about 'the union' ?
     
  13. lover of wisdom is longer than sophophile :rolleyes:
     
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  14. [​IMG]
     
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  15. :thinkingface: :D
    is it conserned about the union tho? its an odd union where one refuses the other the right to ask it self about it where it wants to go after such a siesmic shift in policy. anyhoo, you wont convince me they, the brexit party,libdems or labour after the McCrone Report, how they conducted themselves over the 1979reff and their actions leading up to 2014 and during smith are even remotly interested in "the union". they are interested in our present and future assets, including our strategic position on the Map
     
  16. If I am understanding you correctly, they are interested in Scotland's present and future assets, including your strategic position on the Map because the union needs it, in the same way that the EU doesn't want the UK to leave ?
     
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  17. While the EU wrote the deal: fact, history, shut it :bucktooth:
     
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  18. allan, the UK not a union. tho, rUK needs our asstes bad if its to continue with its "project" of pumping public money into private hands. and playing the big man around the glob.
    the EU is a union in every sence, it wants the UK to stay, but it doesent need it to stay.
     
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