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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Is Her Majesty not queen of Scotland too?

    Independence from the rest of the UK doesn’t change that unless Scotland declares itself a Republic too.
     
  2. Aye up, someone else has arrived that can't fekkin read :joy: disagree all you want wrong winey fluffy fairy dudes :bucktooth:
     
  3. Another who hasn't thought things through

    She is the queen of the united kingdom, for Scotland to become independent then you would have left the united kingdom. So no she would not be your queen, no hms ships, no royal warrants etc

    I believe some commonwealth ships which use the queen as their heads of state can use the hms but I think it's incredibly unlikely that Scotland will apply to be a commonwealth country given they might have just walked away from the U.K.

    what does the snp say about this?
     
  4. nightmare..
     
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  5. Read some history @noobie

    The Union of the Crowns (Scottish Gaelic: Aonadh nan Crùintean; Scots: Union o the Crouns) was the accession of James VI of Scotland to the thrones of England and Ireland, and the consequential unification for some purposes (such as overseas diplomacy) of the three realms under a single monarch on 24 March 1603.

    Through the Acts of Union in 1706 (Scotland) and 1707 (England) the Kingdom of England and the Kingdom of Scotland—which at the time were separate states with separate legislatures, but with the same monarch—were, in the words of the Treaty, "United into One Kingdom by the Name of Great Britain.

    But that was a hundred years after the uniting of the crowns.
     
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  6. dont ask him to read history, ask him to tell the truth.
     
  7. The truth fin is, the queen is head of the united kingdom, great britiain the very same organisation you want to leave so would be no longer part of that organisation.

    This is what the eu calls, cherry picking. the trouble with the snp dictat is that it only see's the snp version

    you want to leave all that is the U.K., you would no longer be part of the uk or great britian
     
  8. Or are you suggesting that if Scotland leaves the Union, they’ll take their Queen with them?
     
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  9. no, i dont think so, noob. i think what you said, and say, is sometimes referred to on the continent as
    merde
    merda
    scheibe
    gowno
    skitters.
    you are a liar noob.
     
  10. Then I'd suggest you read your own independence document and the amount of times where it says scotland expects, rather than what the other side is prepared to give

    A little light reading, if you had truly read it as I have, you know where the lying is coming from

    https://www2.gov.scot/resource/0043/00439021.pdf

    page 254 fin what say you on this

    We plan a controlled points-based system to support the migration of skilled workers for the benefit of Scotland’s economy
     
  11. quickly, what page? noob.
     
  12. On security services page 262

    Initially, we will draw on expertise (such as training and IT) from other countries, primarily, given our long joint history, from the rest of the UK. Such joint working in the early period after independence will deliver a seamless transition ensuring that the security of both countries is continuously maintained. The 298070_PART_3_CHAP_7_FIN.indd 262 19/11/2013 14:54 263 UK has, in the past, provided such support for the creation or development of security services in other countries286.
     
  13. no mention of the monarchy there.
     
  14. Page 276

    Under our proposals, a single GB-wide market for electricity and gas will continue, with the current market trading arrangements, provided that they meet Scottish requirements for energy security supply

    What I'm showing you so far fin is 2 things

    in most things you are not leaving the U.K. at all and 2, most of your scotlands future document see's what scotland says is what is going to happen with no mention of something different for the other side.

    It is little more than a wish list
     
    #35835 noobie, Jul 30, 2019
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  15. still no monarchy there.
     
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    wheres loz when you need him. eh noob?
     
  17. Page 22

    The Monarchy and the Crown
    On independence Scotland will be a constitutional monarchy, continuing the Union of the Crowns that dates back to 1603, pre-dating the Union of the Parliaments by over one hundred years. On independence in 2016, Her Majesty The Queen will be head of state.
    Earlier in 2013, the rules on succession to the Crown (as they affect Scotland and elsewhere) were amended to remove outdated gender discrimination. This Government intends to support, and promote amongst the other Commonwealth States with the Queen as head of state, a similar measure to remove religious discrimination from the succession rules.
     
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  18. Tell me fin, on five eyes, what is the snp's position knowing they will no longer qualify?
     
  19. With independence, Scotland will have the full range of powers needed to keep our people and communities safe, to further reduce crime, to take a coherent approach to tackling crime and to create stronger and cohesive communities
    ■■ A security and intelligence agency will ensure the safety and security of Scotland’s citizens, the first responsibility of any government, within strict legal controls determined by the Scottish Parliament
    ■■ We plan a controlled points-based system to support the migration of skilled workers for the benefit of Scotland’s economy
    ■■ An independent Scotland will have an inclusive approach to citizenship and a humane approach to asylum seekers and refugees


    WHERE?
     
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